I agree with you, Jones. The hydrino or something like it allows LENR to occur. The only variation in the various theories comes from how this special state functions. Mills focuses only on creation of the state, not its role in LENR, as you note. He took this stand early even though he saw and reported tritium production because he did not want to get sucked in the rejection hole into which LENR had fallen.

The only information of value is the recipe used to make energy. This recipe is guided by theory but the theory can not be patented so people cannot be stopped from using it as a guide to find better recipes. Mills and people in the LENR field all suffer from the same problem. They are addicted to their theory. If the theory is close to reality, they can make progress. However, most theories are not close to reality.

Mills has a method that works up to a point. But, as you note as well, his theory, although impressive, has prevented him from finding the best recipe so far. Nevertheless, he has discovered some interesting behavior, just as LENR has done. The race is on to find out how these behaviors can be applied. I think LENR is ahead of the game because the important behaviors have been made public, not hidden as Mills has done. Rossi is ahead because he has applied these behaviors even though he does not understand their meaning. In contrast, Mills claims to understand the meaning, but is having a hard time finding an effective application. Perhaps this time he has. Only time will tell. When the smoke clears, I expect only one mechanism will be operating in both energy generators.

Ed  Storms
On Jan 20, 2014, at 2:07 PM, Jones Beene wrote:


From: Mike Carrell

Alan , BLP belongs to the chemical world, LENR= Low Energy Nuclear Reactions, a whole different world.


This clearly defined kind of bifurcation is what Randell Mills and his financial backers would dearly love for you to believe. It can mean billions to them in the end.

Mike could be correct on this or not, but it is imperative to state all of the options. For many on the fence - BLP has not yet come close to making a good case for that “chemical only” proposition.

I can almost guarantee that Mills device will produce the same low levels of transmutation that are seen in LENR, and this is precisely why he lets no one into that Lab without the strictest NDA you have ever seen. It is his billion dollar secret and it is well-protected.

In fact, it is just as likely that BLP is indeed the using same underlying modus operandi as LENR whether Mills likes it or not. Even the most brilliant inventor does not get to dictate the science and physics which make a device work or not. This will NOT be Mills prerogative, in the end – brilliant as he is.

However, there is also a third view which has been voiced over the years on Vortex - and it is the one which gets comparatively little press because it pleases neither camp.

This is the view that the hydrino is a predecessor state or condition which may produce a little excess energy on its own - but it inevitably goes to LENR as the next step. IOW the hydrino is the predecessor state to LENR.

It is worth repeating that this stance pleases almost no one in either camp, and therefore to the contrarian – it must be correct J

Jones


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