I have dealt with crooks before Axil.  On several occasions I designed radio 
devices that worked as advertised but the clients realized that I was too busy 
to spend the time and effort suing them to collect the bonus payment earned.  
You can understand why they found themselves having to maintain the software 
designed into the product when upgrades were desired.  I suppose they made a 
business decision that was not honest, but saved them capital.


The behavior I described above was not typical of most companies.  I can't 
recall working with a criminal psychopath in the past, but I have certainly met 
some strange owners.  I steered clear of anyone I found to be dishonest at the 
first hint of that behavior.


Dave



-----Original Message-----
From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Wed, Jan 22, 2014 9:07 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Nanoparticles make steam without bring water to a boil.



You should further your education into human nature by dealing with a criminal 
psychopath. Bernie Madoff is not available anymore but I am sure there are many 
more doing business on wall street.






On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 8:43 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote:

I sure hope not!  If Mills really has a device that performs as he indicates, 
then I will be super pleased.


There is great pleasure in seeing something you helped design go into 
production and be used by thousands of happy clients.  Nothing feels better 
than seeing your design out in public performing a task that is needed and I 
can not imagine someone willing to forgo that pride just to cheat others out of 
their investment funds.  I say cheat because the guys that supported Papp, in 
the case you mention, had a right to make a profit on their money.  Papp should 
have been ashamed to take the money that these investors entrusted to him with 
that type of attitude.  I know many people who have accepted funds to start 
companies and they typically worry more about the people who trust them that 
they worry about their own situation.


If Papp had the attitude you attribute to him, then he appears more like a 
fraud than otherwise.


Dave



-----Original Message-----
From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>

Sent: Wed, Jan 22, 2014 8:15 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Nanoparticles make steam without bring water to a boil.









On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 8:05 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote:



The other problem I find difficult to accept is that the Papp engine did not 
find its way into production if it actually performed as described.  Even an 
idiot would instantly realize that the Papp engine would be a great investment 
and money maker.  The videos mentioned that it was demonstrated to at least one 
automaker and they are not stupid.  Why on earth would they let such an 
opportunity get away?  It just doesn't add up.



Bob Rohner asked Papp about this. "Jo why don't you put your engine into 
production:".


Papp said that production is a lot of work and worry. Why go through it when I 
can get all the money I need from investors when I need it. Look around, I have 
all I can ever want...cars, boat, house...etc. why go through all the trouble 
that comes with production.


Maybe Mills thinks in like ways. 








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