If I remember it right. 

There was relatively newly at PES, much
about an Papp-engine called "noble gas engine". The PES people appears
to believe in all weird things but they 

exposed this as a simple
fraud. 

Torulf 

On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 20:43:05 -0500 (EST), David
Roberson  wrote: I sure hope not! If Mills really has a device that
performs as he indicates, then I will be super pleased. 

There is great
pleasure in seeing something you helped design go into production and be
used by thousands of happy clients. Nothing feels better than seeing
your design out in public performing a task that is needed and I can not
imagine someone willing to forgo that pride just to cheat others out of
their investment funds. I say cheat because the guys that supported
Papp, in the case you mention, had a right to make a profit on their
money. Papp should have been ashamed to take the money that these
investors entrusted to him with that type of attitude. I know many
people who have accepted funds to start companies and they typically
worry more about the people who trust them that they worry about their
own situation. 

If Papp had the attitude you attribute to him, then he
appears more like a fraud than otherwise. 

Dave

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On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 8:05 PM, David Roberson  wrote:

The
other problem I find difficult to accept is that the Papp engine did not
find its way into production if it actually performed as described. Even
an idiot would instantly realize that the Papp engine would be a great
investment and money maker. The videos mentioned that it was
demonstrated to at least one automaker and they are not stupid. Why on
earth would they let such an opportunity get away? It just doesn't add
up.  

Bob Rohner asked Papp about this. "Jo why don't you put your
engine into production:". 

Papp said that production is a lot of work
and worry. Why go through it when I can get all the money I need from
investors when I need it. Look around, I have all I can ever
want...cars, boat, house...etc. why go through all the trouble that
comes with production. 

Maybe Mills thinks in like ways.       


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