Papp never made things easy for those who seek his secrets. After the disastrous demo in which the Nobel laureate Richard Feynman attended and witnessed the explosion that killed and maimed a few of those in attendance, Papp never could be persuaded to give the engine up for an independent evaluation and test.
Depression, too: "He would talk about his misery, how he was so badly treated," says John Phillips, an attorney who spent years trying to repair Papp's relations with his backers. And paranoia, especially: "He was scared from his shadow," Szabo, an erstwhile Papp acquaintance says. He feared the oil companies or the Mafia would come after him. "Nobody could explain that nobody wanted to shoot him." In one of the depositions he gave during his suit in court, Papp left a glimpse of this. "I am a scientist and I try to fight for United States and I am willing to work with United States, you understand, because I lost my country. . . But you have to think who is the troublemaker and who tried to cut my throat." His engine was his life; his pride was fully invested in his engine and his soul lived in its works. ''He believed fervently that if he ever gave up the secrets, he would be totally out," Phillips says. " . . . If he lost that, nobody would ever be interested in Joe Papp." In a final paranoid irony, the true danger that stalked Papp finally revealed itself in a pain deep in his stomach. Those radioactive elements he loved so much in their lethal nature did their deadly work. In the end, it was not a bullet that finally laid Papp low; it was colon cancer that eventually brought him down. Why did he work so hard on an engine he could never give up, and share his secret with the world desperate for it? And worse of all, when he knew he was going to die, three months before his end, in a final act of ultimate selfishness, he flushed that precious mix of noble gases from his engines into the heartless air to guard his secret unto himself forever into eternity. On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 8:30 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote: > I look at this issue from another angle. If Papp had a real engine, then > why would he want to keep it from humanity? It seems more likely that he > wanted to prevent others from seeing that his device was a fake and the > liquids would make that obvious. Many people would like to prevent being > viewed as having committed a fraud or being a faker, even when they face > death. I for one would want the future generations to benefit from my > work. It is selfish to do otherwise. > > Feynmann, on the other hand, should not have acted as he did during that > demonstration. He may have been correct in assuming that the device was a > fraud, but there is no way to be positive about that belief. He should > have found other ways to prove his point since he could not know the > consequences of the action he took. I hope he learned an important lesion. > > Dave > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Axil Axil <[email protected]> > To: vortex-l <[email protected]> > Sent: Wed, Jan 22, 2014 8:05 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Nanoparticles make steam without bring water to a boil. > > More... > > When Papp found out he was going to die, Papp flushed his secret fuel > mix from all his engines three months before he died. If the Papp engine > was a scam, why would Papp go to the trouble just to keep his secret from > the world? > > > On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: > >> If the Papp engine was not producing over unity power, then with the wall >> power removed the Papp engine should have stopped. This is what RF >> thought. But unexpectedly, the engine increased its power output until it >> blew apart. This is not the behavior of a scam that RF was assuming. This >> is the behavior of a gainful LENR system. >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 7:19 PM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Jed, >>> >>> I thought so too, when Gene first published the other side of the story. >>> >>> But if your read Feynman’s account carefully, and you should - then you >>> will see that Papp himself unplugged engine and handed the plug to Feynman. >>> Feynman did not unplug the machine – he merely failed to give back the plug >>> to Papp. >>> >>> BUT FEYNMAN WAS UNDER NO LEGAL OBLIGATION TO CONTINUE PAPP’S SCAM. >>> >>> Thus the liability is with Papp. If this had gone to trial there is no >>> doubt Feynman would have prevailed. >>> >>> However, to settle out of court was probably the best thing for all >>> concerned since there was a fatality and Cal Tech has deep pockets. >>> >>> However that death is on Papp. No doubt in my mind that he was legally >>> responsible. >>> >>> >>> *From:* Jed Rothwell >>> >>> Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Here is your “back to reality” information on Papp from Feynman himself. >>> >>> http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/comments/papparticle2.html >>> >>> If we assume the thing was real, then Feynman was responsible for the >>> accident. He killed someone. It was criminal. Real or not, you should >>> NEVER, EVER monkey with equipment or unplug a control unit without asking >>> permission. >>> >>> If we assume it was not real, and power in equalled power out, it was >>> still high powered device under the control of the electronics. Even a fake >>> machine is dangerous if you suddenly disconnect the controls. It is like >>> reaching over from the passenger seat and turning off the ignition in a car >>> driving on a highway. >>> >>> Feynman was sometimes an arrogant, dismissive, unobservant jerk. He >>> sure was in this case. >>> >>> - Jed >>> >>> >> >> >

