From: Foks0904
What accounts for the Heat/Helium correlation in this
reaction mechanism? Is it discounted?
My guess is that no helium at all is seen in this experiment - only thermal
gain.
In a perfect world with decent funding - this would have been run dozens of
times with more care. It was not, and it is doubtful that they looked for
helium at all - only excess heat.
The evidence for thermal gain in Pd-D is convincing - extraordinary actually
- far more so than the controversial claims for an actual correlation of
helium to thermal gain. There are people who everyone respects - experts -
on both sides of the helium correlation issue, but it is undecided.
For the various Spin Doctors on Vortex -
Here is a magnon-ymous tribute to John Bockris, who passed
away last summer.
Bockris authored over 700 papers and 24 books. This blip is
courtesy of
Brian Ahern who has been developing a nanomagnetism
hypothesis for
non-nuclear gain in LENR which involves magnons, spin
coupling and Curie
point recycling.
It does not necessarily replace fusion, but may be another
(one of many)
sources of thermal gain. In fact there is the possibility
that given the
strangeness of QM - the way that one gets to a reactionless
version of
helium fusion is to already have given up the 24 MeV with
spin coupling !!!
This finding below should be a strong indication that even
Pd-D has a robust
spin coupling mechanism, which is unrelated to fusion - but
which is
definitely thermally gainful and could precede fusion.
I mean to say "probably unrelated to fusion" since in the
following - there
was NO ENERGY applied, simply a magnetic field. Most
proponents of Pd-D
realize that helium cannot arise without some energy input,
but the point is
that even here, there could be another distinct route to
thermal gain.
From Bockris and Sundaresan 1994
2.3. Magnetic Stimulation
After the cathode had been charged with deuterium for 48
hours at a current
of 80 mA, the cell was placed in the field of a permanent
magnet of 200
Gauss strength. The cell electrolyte temperature rose to 5 °
C (Fig.10.)
after 230 seconds, After 576 seconds, the magnet was
replaced by two, one
inch Neodymium magnets with a 800 Gauss field placed as
described earlier.
The temperature immediately started increasing and reached
13.5 ° C in about
15 minutes and remained constant. The temperature returned
to 3.5 ° C when
the magnet was removed.
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