Foks0904, Brian and Jones--Bob Cook here-- Thanks for the reference to spin coupling.
If electrons love to pair up in atoms because of spin coupling, why not protons in a metal lattice quantum system? Kim seems to think that D's with integral spin can get together at significant temperatures in a BEC and act like one entity. Maybe 2 paired protons act like a Bose particle with parallel and anti-parallel spins in a Pd or Ni lattice. A magnetic field would help the protons to align themselves to pair up, particular at higher temperatures. Excited D particles, above their ground spin state of 0, in a magnetic field may pair up to regain a 0 spin combination; they would need to react with a pair of electrons at the same time to form highly stable He-4 with 0 spin at the end of the reaction. Energy of course would be fractioned to other nuclei and electrons in small spin quanta and hence to the lattice as thermal heat during this reaction. It would all depend on a coherent quantum system and coupling between the various particles. Such a reaction may be what Bockris and Sundaresan encountered and were able to control with the external magnetic field. 800 gauss applied field would produce a tremendous B magnetic field in the Pd electrode with corresponding higher spin energy quantum states for excited particles. Nuclear based gamma lasers studied extensively in the 1970's and 80' make use of excited nuclear spin/energy states which are induced to decay in a coherent manner. I note this in way of pointing that exciting nuclei with tuned radiation or other means (not generally neutrons to my knowledge) is not unheard of. I make the above conjectures for protons and D particles to make a point that spin coupling may be important in both Pd and Ni lattices with the hope of making LENR theory simple--connecting the various dots in the multitude of experiments. I will check out Bockris and Sundaresan ASAP. They may have checked the Pd for He-4 or other potential reaction products. George Miley should have a good handle on this issue, since he has worked with the Pd system extensively. He's another researcher to check out. SPAWAR seems to have blacked out so I would not look to them for additional information on the Pd system and spin coupling. SRI, well maybe. Thanks to all that contribute ideas to this conversation, Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: Foks0904 . To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 5:37 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Spin this ... What accounts for the Heat/Helium correlation in this reaction mechanism? Is it discounted? On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote: For the various Spin Doctors on Vortex - Here is a magnon-ymous tribute to John Bockris, who passed away last summer. Bockris authored over 700 papers and 24 books. This blip is courtesy of Brian Ahern who has been developing a nanomagnetism hypothesis for non-nuclear gain in LENR which involves magnons, spin coupling and Curie point recycling. It does not necessarily replace fusion, but may be another (one of many) sources of thermal gain. In fact there is the possibility that given the strangeness of QM - the way that one gets to a reactionless version of helium fusion is to already have given up the 24 MeV with spin coupling !!! This finding below should be a strong indication that even Pd-D has a robust spin coupling mechanism, which is unrelated to fusion - but which is definitely thermally gainful and could precede fusion. I mean to say "probably unrelated to fusion" since in the following - there was NO ENERGY applied, simply a magnetic field. Most proponents of Pd-D realize that helium cannot arise without some energy input, but the point is that even here, there could be another distinct route to thermal gain. From Bockris and Sundaresan 1994 2.3. Magnetic Stimulation After the cathode had been charged with deuterium for 48 hours at a current of 80 mA, the cell was placed in the field of a permanent magnet of 200 Gauss strength. The cell electrolyte temperature rose to 5 ° C (Fig.10.) after 230 seconds, After 576 seconds, the magnet was replaced by two, one inch Neodymium magnets with a 800 Gauss field placed as described earlier. The temperature immediately started increasing and reached 13.5 ° C in about 15 minutes and remained constant. The temperature returned to 3.5 ° C when the magnet was removed.
