Jones, since you mention how different protium and deuterium are perhaps it is 
an excellent time to discuss the differences:

Obviously the mass of deuterium is approximately double that of protium.  At 
the same temperature protium would be moving between collisions at around the 
square root of two times faster.

Deuterium is physically larger than protium but the size difference may not 
make a difference in the chemical behavior directly.  Here I am referring to 
the nucleus and not a neutral atom.

The magnetic properties of the two should be different but I leave that 
decision up to others with an opportunity to look into the issue.  The spin 
differences must be important.

The behavior of each of these isotopes to electromagnetic radiation would be 
quite different due to the large mass to charge ratio variation.

Deuterium can combine with another of its same isotope to form a stable nucleus 
whereas protium generally does not.  This may be the main physical difference 
affecting LENR behavior.

Deuterium can supply a neutron to any nuclear reaction that protium can not.  
The proton and neutron can be separated and individually expelled under certain 
conditions.

I suspect that protium diffuses more rapidly than deuterium through metals due 
to its lower mass and perhaps smaller physical size.

I have barely breached the list of differences and I am confident that others 
can correct and improve this beginning.   Take a moment to add factors that you 
may have knowledge of that clearly pertain to behavior separating these 
isotopes.

Thanks,

Dave

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jones Beene <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Mar 4, 2014 9:28 am
Subject: RE: [Vo]:"Christopher H. Cooper"




From:Eric Walker 
 




Wikipedia has adiscussion of Nickel hydride with several references to recent 
papers. 


 

I'm thinking more in relative terms -- I believe ittakes quite a lot of energy 
to dissolve hydrogen into nickel in comparison tothe relative ease with which 
hydrogen dissolves into palladium (which issometimes called a "hydrogen 
sponge").

 
In his Arata replication,Ahern found that an alloy of mostly nickel with less 
than 10% Pd takes up more hydrogenthan Pd alone. 
 
But he also found thathydrogen concentration did NOT correlate to excess 
energy. However, this waswith protium, not deuterium. The highest absorber was 
not the most active and alow absorber was actually superior. There is a known 
correlation of excess heatto deuterium concentration in Pd-D experiments, which 
is completely absent inNi-H. 
 
This is yet another reason,one of many - why consideration of all the evidence, 
giving no preference toPd-D, points to many different routes to gain in LENR. 
 
In many ways, protium anddeuterium as so extremely different in physical 
properties (especially nuclearproperties) that they should be considered to be 
different elements instead ofisotopes of the same element.
 
 

 



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