Ed-- What about crack orientation; is it more important than size when a magnetic field is present?
Bob From: Edmund Storms Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 1:05 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms Subject: Re: [Vo]:2 Modes of the FPE If I had such a method, I would first write a patent. Unfortunately, that is the method we are trying to find. I can make cracks anytime I want but I can not make the most effective distribution at will, although I get lucky sometimes. Ed Storms On Mar 22, 2014, at 1:58 PM, James Bowery wrote: I may have inadequately expressed what I was looking for: A technique to generate, in a single sample, a wide and relatively flat (very low kurtosis) distribution of crack sizes (and a large number of such cracks of course). This, as opposed to a wide array of techniques, each of which generates different but relatively narrow distribution of crack sizes. Obviously if you have a sensitive detection technique, like tritium with scintillation, you would prefer applying a single technique to a single sample and getting detectable tritium -- however small. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com> wrote: I know of no single paper that describes how cracks are formed. However, a huge literature exists that describe how cracks are produced in materials and how this destructive process can be avoided. I have 69 papers in my collection that address this issue. Unless you are prepared to do a lot of study, an answer to your question is not easy to supply. Ed Storms On Mar 22, 2014, at 1:39 PM, James Bowery wrote: Is there a paper describing the technique(s) for generating a wide distribution of crack sizes? On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com> wrote: Tritium can not be detected easily using a beta detector. The best way is to convert the gas to water and measure the tritium using the scintillation metaod. The allows the sample to be studied over a period of time by many people if they wish. Ed Storms On Mar 22, 2014, at 1:02 PM, James Bowery wrote: Perhaps I can illustrate by avoiding thermal detection and going with tritium: Since tritium production is inherently time integrated, setting up a Cravens style dual experiment with a one treated to have a wide range of crack sizes, and both identical in all other respects, puts the primary cost constraint on the beta-emission counter. Can such counters be made economical? On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 1:56 PM, James Bowery <jabow...@gmail.com> wrote: Ed, I'm attacking a different problem: Cost. Since we're in a quasi-Edisonian phase of scientific research, keeping the cost per experiment as low as possible seems to be the bottleneck to getting a protocol that has reproduces the FPE to any statistically significant degree. Developing a different kind of experimental set up may be the key. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com> wrote: James, I feel much more comfortable using a calorimeter design I can trust and that has been used in the past. The Cravens device is a nice demonstration but it proves nothing. I have made calorimeters that do the job much better and give absolute values for power. No need exists to reinvent. Ed Storms On Mar 22, 2014, at 12:27 PM, James Bowery wrote: If you are running a Cravens style simultaneous, colocated control experiment with infinite COP your odds of detecting a tiny temperature difference economically are vastly improved. Basically you just integrate the voltage out of a bimetallic (thermocoupling) wall separating the treated material from the untreated material in a common vessel that provides a small amount of gas communication between the chambers for pressure equalization. This is not an expensive device. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 12:46 PM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com> wrote: Yes, getting a wide variety of sizes is easy. Getting enough of the right size in this distribution is the problem. Only a few of the right size will not give enough energy to be detected. When radiation or tritium is used to detect the occurrence of LENR, the effect can be seen using fewer active sites. However, these methods have not been used very often, probably because the tools and skill are not common. Cracks either want to grow larger or sinter and disappear. As a result, production of LENR is unstable. This makes the effect occur for brief times, but not long enough to be sure LENR is actually happening rather than a random event. Ed Storms On Mar 22, 2014, at 11:28 AM, James Bowery wrote: On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com> wrote: Based on my theory, the active material are nano-cracks. Making these at the require size is the challenge. Cracks can be made many different ways, but getting the right size is the problem. Might there be a technique that generates a wide distribution of crack sizes?