Eric Walker <[email protected]> wrote:
> With all confidence, you repeat Gamberale's assertion that Defkalion > prevented Gamberale from doing common sense tests, as though it were > established fact. What is the basis for your confidence? > There is corroboration. In retrospect this is the only explanation that makes sense. Defkalion prevented me and several others from visiting after they realized that we intended to bring our own instruments and do those same reality-check tests. They cancelled on me and the others 3 times, the last time a few hours before the plane left. Looking back, this was a game of chicken. They only wanted visitors they could dupe. The fact that Defkalion Europe (DE) closed down soon after the test indicates DE found a serious problem. I am sure it was the flow meter. I heard that from multiple sources. Hadjichristos confirmed that soon after the conference. Such a serious problem should have been caught earlier. It should have been caught before ICCF18. There has to be reason they did not even do a simple check until the day after the ICCF18 test. Gamberale clearly knew how to do this test. Perhaps there is some other reason he failed to do it, and no "gentleman's agreement." Since he knew how to do it and realized the importance, I can't imagine why else he would refrain from doing it. It is a strange story, I will grant. It Defkalion did not prevent these tests, I think it is up to them to publish a statement explaining why the tests were not done until after ICCF18. Let them tell their version of the story. If they do not respond, I will assume Gamberale is telling the truth. > It is not Xanthoulis. He acknowledged that there was a problem with the > flow meter. He did not acknowledge that Defkalion prevented Gamberale from > doing common sense tests. > I think it must have been Xanthoulis or someone else from Defkalion. Any normal, sane person familiar with calorimetry would do these tests. Gamberale understood why the tests were needed, and he did them as soon as the people from Defkalion left. You are casting doubt on your objectivity. > I would have to be blind fool not to assume these people are frauds and cheats! For one thing, when they were still rolling in money they promised to pay me $1,400, and they ran up much larger debts with other people. Then they lied and lied and lied about that, in public, and they tried to trash my reputation, repeatedly. Then Xanthoulis bragged in the press that they stole intellectual property from Rossi. He was bragging to the whole world that he is a crook! Can you imagine?!? Who would do business with someone who brags that he robbed his former business partner? So I have known all along they are deadbeats and liars. > You are beginning to sound like Krivit. You want to take a short-cut to > get to a conclusion that you believe to be true. > The conclusion has been inescapable for years. It is none of my business, and I am not a police investigator or a self-styled Tintin reporter like Krivit. However, when anyone asked me about Defkalion I told them: "They look like a bunch a crooks to me. They have never published any data. Everyone I know who has been there says it does not work. And they stiffed me for $1,400. You would be crazy to do business with them." I have never kept any of that a secret. It would be irresponsible for me *not* to tell people that. The conclusion about Defkalion that you want to get to is probably > spot-on. But, at least from the information that has been made public, all > we have are assertions from parties directly involved concerning Defkalion > preventing Gamberale from making accurate measurements. This detail is > likely to be true, but has not been established to be true. > It hardly matters whether it is true or not. If they neglected to do common sense tests, both DGT and DE were grossly incompetent. If DGT prevented the tests they are frauds. Either way they are unqualified and no one should do business with them. - Jed
