Here is the one I remember

http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/STAFF/VISITING_FELLOWS&PROFESSORS/pdf/MileyClusterRydbLPBsing.pdf


On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 2:35 AM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:

> http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MileyGHcondensedm.pdf
>
> There are others but I hope this one will do for you.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 12:56 AM, Foks0904 . <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Axil -- Can you link the paper(s) where Miley measured zero-resistance in
>> NAE? I've always been curious where the origin of synthesizing LENR w/
>> superconductivity originated. Was his work the original? Thanks.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 11:46 PM, Kevin O'Malley <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> My responses embedded by 3 asterisks***.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 8:27 PM, Foks0904 . <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Kevin -- I'm not a scientist, its not my theory, take your objections
>>>> directly to Ed
>>>>
>>> ***My responses are to YOU.  If you say something about his theory, I'm
>>> responding to YOU.  Do YOU know what you're talking about?
>>>
>>>
>>>> (you have his email it would appear) if you're serious about finding
>>>> out the nitty-gritty specifics. I don't think he's doing the same thing at
>>>> all. Nothing about thermodynamics is being violated in Ed's theory.
>>>>
>>> ***Other than the fact that he submits that thermodynamics don't apply
>>> to his very special cracks... I might agree.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> But quickly, based on my understanding -- if nuclear level heat events
>>>> were going to take place within a chemical lattice, where a chemically
>>>> bonded environment is pervasive, any energy concentration rivaling a
>>>> nuclear level phenomenon is going to cause all kinds of chemical changes to
>>>> the environment well before a long-series of nuclear-level reactions could
>>>> take place.
>>>>
>>> ***Uh huh, yeay, yum, goodie.  But where does Ed Storms say such a
>>> thing?  He doesn't.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Because we know LENR is inexorably tied to "solid materials",
>>>>
>>> ***That there is a BIG FRIGGIN CLUE.  Yup.  Uh huh.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>  there are only two places for it to be taking place. The bulk, or a
>>>> nano-gap environment.
>>>>
>>> ***Or on the surface.  Swartz says it ain't on the surface.  It is my
>>> impression that others do say so as well, in particular when P& F melted a
>>> device by increasing the bulk by a great amount but not necessarily the
>>> surface by much amount.  And others....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> The NGE can allow for higher concentrations of energy,
>>>>
>>>  ***I think you mean the NAE here.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>  deuterium/hydrogen, and long-periods of reactions (because the
>>>> overall lattice retains its overall chemical structure sufficiently to
>>>> maintain the NAE),
>>>>
>>> ***Gee, that sounds a lot like my BEC analogy of a house blowing up by
>>> dynamite.   The house is the BAE, the dynamite is the nuclear event, and
>>> the victim is either protected or not protected by the remnants of the
>>> house.  Perhaps you'd care to comment?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> because while to some degree the nuclear reactions cause
>>>> transformations to their surroundings, it is only altering the lattice
>>>> locally on the surface for the most part.
>>>>
>>> ***You might make light of a nuclear event but I don't.  Nuke
>>> transformations are a BIG DEAL.  In my theory, they represent vectors that
>>> exit outside of a chain of connected atoms (much as Storms says).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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