Axil -- OK, but how is the fusion reaction initiated in this model? The
magnetic nano-antennae traps bring the hydrogen to the NAE (which is what
exactly?) and then what happens? Basically Kim's theory? Where else,
experimentally, has a BCE exhibited the tendency to initiate fusion?

Why would the BEC "protect [nano-wire] from destruction"? BEC's themselves
are not known to exist at the temperatures we are positing. Therefore how
can they protect anything if they themselves should not maintain an
existence at much higher temperatures? I know the claims for creation of
"room temperature" BEC (Michigan group I think) -- none of which show BEC
can exist at particularly high temperatures in a chaotic environment, form
in copious amounts, or initiate any kind of fusion reaction. This seems
like another way of stating Hagelstein's view, only he doesn't posit the
necessity for a BEC or plasmons, whereby he explains energy dissipation
through a quantum coherent sharing process across the lattice structure &
hydrogen clusters via phonons (aka quasi-particles -- same as polaritons).


On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:

> The way power flows from the fusion reaction to the lattice is based on
> the formation of a global BEC. The nuclear reaction feeds the BEC power in
> small packets, hundreds of thousands of energy packets  spread quantum
> mechanically over all the members of the global polariton BEC. The nickel
> nanowire does not enter into the nuclear reaction. It only projects a
> magnetic force that causes the nuclear reaction to take place. The Energy
> from the LENR reaction flows back through the magnetic field lines to the
> soliton which is the BEC ensemble member at the tip of the nickel nanowire.
>
> The BEC of polaritons is what protects the nickel nanowire from
> destruction.
>
> Similar energy sharing is seen in the BEC of Rydberg atoms. That BEC is
> called a super atom because it act like one huge atom.
>
> This is also how dark matter polariton clouds form at the centers of dwarf
> galaxies to form a polariton BEC of dark matter carried by interstellar
> dust as the substrate that is 100000 parsecs in diameter.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Foks0904 . <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the comment Jojo. I think you make a fair point(s).
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Jojo Iznart <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>   In all this talk about the NAE being a Nanowire, a nanotip, a
>>> nanoantenna, a nanomesh, a nanospike, a nano coating on a nano particle,  a
>>> nano-this and a nano-that; people seems to be forgeting the fact that
>>> whatever nano structure the NAE is, it will not survive the temperatures
>>> we've seen being demonstrated; especially with Rossi's hotcat.
>>>
>>> Is it not obvious to anyone that whatever whatever the NAE is, it
>>> couldn't possibly be a nanostructure of Nickel.  Nickel will be a
>>> homogenous blob of partly molten metal at the temperatures we are talking
>>> about. And it is known,  that it will sinter and reshape itself even at
>>> temperatures significantly below its melting temp.   In other words,
>>> GOODBYE NAE.  At best, it is a one-use NAE.  An NAE that is a nanostructure
>>> Nickel appears to be highly unlikely and improbable.
>>>
>>> That is why, I'm with Ed on this.  People come up with theories that
>>> conveniently ignore the chemical environment.  In this case, the physical
>>> melting or sintering point of Nickel.
>>>
>>> Axil's theory while sounding erudite and well-researched, has a big hole
>>> in the middle of it.  Big enough to drive a Mack truck thru.  Unless Axil
>>> can explain how his Nano antenna NAE can survive the temps, It is my
>>> opinion that his theory is dead.
>>>
>>>  I broke my self-imposed exile just to say this.  It seems that there
>>> are many theories being bandied around that simply breaks very important
>>> principles.  Whatever you think of Ed's book, he makes a very important
>>> point, we should not simply ignore the chemical environment, or physical
>>> properties of metals, or thermodynamic principles, etc if they do not fit
>>> our theories.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jojo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

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