Axil -- this sounds a bit similar to Widom-Larsen's magic gamma shield.
Maybe there is evidence for energy distribution in a BEC polariton system
-- but these are observed only outside LENR systems, in very selective
environments, and last I checked all NiH generating systems don't require
the existence of a cold plasma either. In those systems no BEC would form,
and a truck load of gammas would result.


On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 7:08 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:

> The BEC buffers the release of energy by widely spreading it out over many
> NAE. The is something called quantum mechanical blockade that makes sure no
> one NAE get more energy than the others.
>
> When there is no BEC formed, a gamma is produced by the sole NAE and the
> NAE is destroyed. A LENR system that produces gamma is eating itself up and
> will soon fail.
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 6:31 PM, Foks0904 . <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Axil -- OK, but how is the fusion reaction initiated in this model? The
>> magnetic nano-antennae traps bring the hydrogen to the NAE (which is what
>> exactly?) and then what happens? Basically Kim's theory? Where else,
>> experimentally, has a BCE exhibited the tendency to initiate fusion?
>>
>> Why would the BEC "protect [nano-wire] from destruction"? BEC's
>> themselves are not known to exist at the temperatures we are
>> positing. Therefore how can they protect anything if they themselves should
>> not maintain an existence at much higher temperatures? I know the claims
>> for creation of "room temperature" BEC (Michigan group I think) -- none of
>> which show BEC can exist at particularly high temperatures in a chaotic
>> environment, form in copious amounts, or initiate any kind of fusion
>> reaction. This seems like another way of stating Hagelstein's view, only he
>> doesn't posit the necessity for a BEC or plasmons, whereby he explains
>> energy dissipation through a quantum coherent sharing process across the
>> lattice structure & hydrogen clusters via phonons (aka quasi-particles --
>> same as polaritons).
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> The way power flows from the fusion reaction to the lattice is based on
>>> the formation of a global BEC. The nuclear reaction feeds the BEC power in
>>> small packets, hundreds of thousands of energy packets  spread quantum
>>> mechanically over all the members of the global polariton BEC. The nickel
>>> nanowire does not enter into the nuclear reaction. It only projects a
>>> magnetic force that causes the nuclear reaction to take place. The Energy
>>> from the LENR reaction flows back through the magnetic field lines to the
>>> soliton which is the BEC ensemble member at the tip of the nickel nanowire.
>>>
>>> The BEC of polaritons is what protects the nickel nanowire from
>>> destruction.
>>>
>>> Similar energy sharing is seen in the BEC of Rydberg atoms. That BEC is
>>> called a super atom because it act like one huge atom.
>>>
>>> This is also how dark matter polariton clouds form at the centers of
>>> dwarf galaxies to form a polariton BEC of dark matter carried by
>>> interstellar dust as the substrate that is 100000 parsecs in diameter.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Foks0904 . <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for the comment Jojo. I think you make a fair point(s).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Jojo Iznart <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>   In all this talk about the NAE being a Nanowire, a nanotip, a
>>>>> nanoantenna, a nanomesh, a nanospike, a nano coating on a nano particle,  
>>>>> a
>>>>> nano-this and a nano-that; people seems to be forgeting the fact that
>>>>> whatever nano structure the NAE is, it will not survive the temperatures
>>>>> we've seen being demonstrated; especially with Rossi's hotcat.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it not obvious to anyone that whatever whatever the NAE is, it
>>>>> couldn't possibly be a nanostructure of Nickel.  Nickel will be a
>>>>> homogenous blob of partly molten metal at the temperatures we are talking
>>>>> about. And it is known,  that it will sinter and reshape itself even at
>>>>> temperatures significantly below its melting temp.   In other words,
>>>>> GOODBYE NAE.  At best, it is a one-use NAE.  An NAE that is a 
>>>>> nanostructure
>>>>> Nickel appears to be highly unlikely and improbable.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is why, I'm with Ed on this.  People come up with theories that
>>>>> conveniently ignore the chemical environment.  In this case, the physical
>>>>> melting or sintering point of Nickel.
>>>>>
>>>>> Axil's theory while sounding erudite and well-researched, has a big
>>>>> hole in the middle of it.  Big enough to drive a Mack truck thru.  Unless
>>>>> Axil can explain how his Nano antenna NAE can survive the temps, It is my
>>>>> opinion that his theory is dead.
>>>>>
>>>>>  I broke my self-imposed exile just to say this.  It seems that there
>>>>> are many theories being bandied around that simply breaks very important
>>>>> principles.  Whatever you think of Ed's book, he makes a very important
>>>>> point, we should not simply ignore the chemical environment, or physical
>>>>> properties of metals, or thermodynamic principles, etc if they do not fit
>>>>> our theories.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jojo
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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