How does the BEC-polariton shield maintain its existence without applied current -- similar to when power is shut-off to a system and demonstrates heat-after-death power generation? The electrical input goes away, cold plasma goes away, BEC shield goes away, but the reactions persist, so we should observe storms of radiation during those periods, which we do not. Same problem as WLT, or no?
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 7:19 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: > This is way a LENR system will work for awhile and then died a slow death. > A BEC leeps a reactor going for months without damage to the nano strutures. > > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Foks0904 . <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Axil -- this sounds a bit similar to Widom-Larsen's magic gamma shield. >> Maybe there is evidence for energy distribution in a BEC polariton system >> -- but these are observed only outside LENR systems, in very selective >> environments, and last I checked all NiH generating systems don't require >> the existence of a cold plasma either. In those systems no BEC would form, >> and a truck load of gammas would result. >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 7:08 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> The BEC buffers the release of energy by widely spreading it out over >>> many NAE. The is something called quantum mechanical blockade that makes >>> sure no one NAE get more energy than the others. >>> >>> When there is no BEC formed, a gamma is produced by the sole NAE and the >>> NAE is destroyed. A LENR system that produces gamma is eating itself up and >>> will soon fail. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 6:31 PM, Foks0904 . <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Axil -- OK, but how is the fusion reaction initiated in this model? The >>>> magnetic nano-antennae traps bring the hydrogen to the NAE (which is what >>>> exactly?) and then what happens? Basically Kim's theory? Where else, >>>> experimentally, has a BCE exhibited the tendency to initiate fusion? >>>> >>>> Why would the BEC "protect [nano-wire] from destruction"? BEC's >>>> themselves are not known to exist at the temperatures we are >>>> positing. Therefore how can they protect anything if they themselves should >>>> not maintain an existence at much higher temperatures? I know the claims >>>> for creation of "room temperature" BEC (Michigan group I think) -- none of >>>> which show BEC can exist at particularly high temperatures in a chaotic >>>> environment, form in copious amounts, or initiate any kind of fusion >>>> reaction. This seems like another way of stating Hagelstein's view, only he >>>> doesn't posit the necessity for a BEC or plasmons, whereby he explains >>>> energy dissipation through a quantum coherent sharing process across the >>>> lattice structure & hydrogen clusters via phonons (aka quasi-particles -- >>>> same as polaritons). >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The way power flows from the fusion reaction to the lattice is based >>>>> on the formation of a global BEC. The nuclear reaction feeds the BEC power >>>>> in small packets, hundreds of thousands of energy packets spread quantum >>>>> mechanically over all the members of the global polariton BEC. The nickel >>>>> nanowire does not enter into the nuclear reaction. It only projects a >>>>> magnetic force that causes the nuclear reaction to take place. The Energy >>>>> from the LENR reaction flows back through the magnetic field lines to the >>>>> soliton which is the BEC ensemble member at the tip of the nickel >>>>> nanowire. >>>>> >>>>> The BEC of polaritons is what protects the nickel nanowire from >>>>> destruction. >>>>> >>>>> Similar energy sharing is seen in the BEC of Rydberg atoms. That BEC >>>>> is called a super atom because it act like one huge atom. >>>>> >>>>> This is also how dark matter polariton clouds form at the centers of >>>>> dwarf galaxies to form a polariton BEC of dark matter carried by >>>>> interstellar dust as the substrate that is 100000 parsecs in diameter. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Foks0904 . <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for the comment Jojo. I think you make a fair point(s). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Jojo Iznart <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> In all this talk about the NAE being a Nanowire, a nanotip, a >>>>>>> nanoantenna, a nanomesh, a nanospike, a nano coating on a nano >>>>>>> particle, a >>>>>>> nano-this and a nano-that; people seems to be forgeting the fact that >>>>>>> whatever nano structure the NAE is, it will not survive the temperatures >>>>>>> we've seen being demonstrated; especially with Rossi's hotcat. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is it not obvious to anyone that whatever whatever the NAE is, it >>>>>>> couldn't possibly be a nanostructure of Nickel. Nickel will be a >>>>>>> homogenous blob of partly molten metal at the temperatures we are >>>>>>> talking >>>>>>> about. And it is known, that it will sinter and reshape itself even at >>>>>>> temperatures significantly below its melting temp. In other words, >>>>>>> GOODBYE NAE. At best, it is a one-use NAE. An NAE that is a >>>>>>> nanostructure >>>>>>> Nickel appears to be highly unlikely and improbable. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That is why, I'm with Ed on this. People come up with theories that >>>>>>> conveniently ignore the chemical environment. In this case, the >>>>>>> physical >>>>>>> melting or sintering point of Nickel. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Axil's theory while sounding erudite and well-researched, has a big >>>>>>> hole in the middle of it. Big enough to drive a Mack truck thru. >>>>>>> Unless >>>>>>> Axil can explain how his Nano antenna NAE can survive the temps, It is >>>>>>> my >>>>>>> opinion that his theory is dead. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I broke my self-imposed exile just to say this. It seems that >>>>>>> there are many theories being bandied around that simply breaks very >>>>>>> important principles. Whatever you think of Ed's book, he makes a very >>>>>>> important point, we should not simply ignore the chemical environment, >>>>>>> or >>>>>>> physical properties of metals, or thermodynamic principles, etc if they >>>>>>> do >>>>>>> not fit our theories. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jojo >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
