Here's a place to start on radionuclide dating.  But my eyes glaze over
(MEGO) relatively quickly

http://answersinscience.org/RadiometricDating-Woolf.htm


On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 12:30 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

>  On 16/08/2014 12:11 AM, Jojo Iznart wrote:
>
> ...It is the inherent unreliability and irreproducibility of the methods
> themselves that is causing a lot of controversy.
>
> I don't know why you think radio-nucleotide dating is unreliable (unless
> you only listen to the YECs!).  Take a look at figure 1 in the IntCal13
> publication
> <https://journals.uair.arizona.edu/index.php/radiocarbon/article/viewFile/16947/pdf>
> (and the rest if you are interested).  You should appreciate that this is a
> *calibration* curve - ie the date is not determined from the C14 ratio, but
> the date is determined by *independent* means (ie counting tree rings,
> counting varves, measuring distance and assuming constant growth rate,
> etc).  This is then plotted against the age obtained by blind use of C14
> decay assuming an initial percentage at the current value.  Don't you think
> it is remarkable that all those thousands of measurements by so many
> different methods all agree so well that we can *calibrate* the C14 ratio
> vs age from them!
>
> Would you rather base your world view on one or two outlier points, or on
> the overwhelming trend of millions of data points that all fit and are
> consistent with each other?  The standard approach of science is to trust
> the vast body of data that agrees with itself and toss out the few outliers
> that cannot be fitted in because something must have been wrong with the
> assumptions or measurement in those cases.
>
>  Egregious examples like a piece of leather from a shoe made in the
> 1800's dating to 600,000 years ago;
>
> I wonder if you could provide a reference to this case as it sounds rather
> interesting.  It is easy to see how contamination can give a young age for
> an old sample, but difficult to see what process can produce the opposite
> effect!  (The person who's shoe it was didn't happen to be abducted by a
> UFO by any chance did they?!)
>
>
>  really are the reasons why radionucleotide dating techniques can not
> trusted.  I am not opposed to radionecleotide dating techniques because I
> am religious.  Au contraire, I am opposed to it because it is so unreliable.
>
> What if you really took a good look at the bulk of the data - not just the
> few YEC outliers - and saw just how amazingly consistent and reliable it
> is.  Would you still be opposed to it?  I suspect you would and I suspect
> the reason would be one akin to love.  But if you love the truth above all
> else then you should have courage to follow even when she would lead you
> out of your comfort zone!
>
>

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