The magnetic field distribution can be quite complex and depends upon how the various component fields combine. One thing that I feel comfortable in saying is that the external field must behave in such a manner that the total normal flux through any external volume element must add to zero at any particular time. The discovery of a monopole has not been established so far and that would be necessary if this were not the case.
Flux must arise from some regions of the metal box and then return through others. This type of distribution would not be consistent with a constant steady state flux at every point around the device. Of course, if they are finding that the magnetic flux varies with space and time as the reaction proceeds, then perhaps it is possible for the average to work out. That would appear to be a major observation with interesting implications. If I recall, there remains a highly conductive shield surrounding the unit which would make a strong effort to slow down outside observations of the internally rapid magnetic fluctuations. The conductive metal behaves somewhat analogous to a low pass filter in electronics since it attempts to keep the magnetic flux passing through it constant. Some have suggested that the large external magnetic field is a measurement error. We must await release of additional data before anyone can draw that conclusion. Also, the interaction of an electromagnetic field and LENR has many attributes that we have been discussing. An interesting case to speculate upon would be that the observed field is due to the combination of a very large multitude of individual active areas that are battling for supremacy. The fact that such a large net field is seen would indicate that each of the smaller elements might have truly enormous local fields as suggested by Axil. This might further indicate that the low pass nature of the conductive shield ultimately dominates the external field distribution and time domain characteristics. Think of this effect as somewhat comparable to the way an oscilloscope views the impulse response of an electronic low pass filter. What you see is so strongly influenced by the filter that the output signal no longer closely resembles its original shape prior to filtering. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Thu, Aug 21, 2014 12:40 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:LENR <-> dark mater <-> DDL connection-- Thank you Dave for the response to my post, It is a pod tomore deductive speculation about the nature of the magnetic field in the Ni/Hreactor. I notice that there is a disbelief associated with thismagnetic field observation that is similar to the disbelief that naysayers demonstratewhen they say that LENR is impossible in principle because it is just unbelievablecounter indicative of observational reality. A worst case number is useful as a systems engineering ruleof thumb as a guide to estimation. There are 200,000 microns in 20 Cms. In the worst caseestimate, the magnetic field has to have come from the volume of the 200 micronnickel foam. That is 1000 inverse squared or 1,000,000 tesla. If an anapole field is involved when thefield acts within a few nanometers of the source, applying second ordereffects might be warranted. The inverse cube might be valid to use. Therefore,1000 cubed or 1,000,000,000 or 10^^9 tesla is the worst case originating fromthe 200 micron nickel foam. Dave: "I personally think that the field is the net vectorsum of a very large number of tiny sources and hence may not become as large asis suggested as we close in on those individual sources." If this is the case, the field is"ferromagnetic" A "ferromagnetic" field applies only if allof its magnetic ions add a positive contribution to the net magnetization. Thespins of all the unit field contributors must be aligned. If some of the magnetic ions subtract from the netmagnetization (if they are partially anti-aligned), then the material is"ferrimagnetic" In materials thatexhibit antiferromagnetism, the magnetic moments of atoms or molecules,usually related to the spins of electrons, align in a regular pattern withneighboring spins (on different sublattices) pointing in opposite directions If the field is ferromagnetic, what is producing the alignmentof the individual magnetic contributions? The electron for example is a dipole with a north and SouthPole. Any anti alignment in a dipolar system would negate the ferromagneticeffect. One important clue to the nature of the magnetic fieldinside the reactor as determined by experimental observations is that the eternalmagnetic field is basically the same all around the outside of the reactor.This is not indicative of a ferromagnetic field. Such a field would produce a strong north poleand a strong anti-aligned south pole fieldwith little field strength in between. If the magnetic units were anapole, any misalignment wouldnot diminish the strength of the composite combined field. An antiferromagneticanapole field would project equal field strength in all directions whose field strengthat an arbitrary distance would be a non-additive refection of each individual’ssource generators field strengths. Theindividual unit magnetic sources would not be additive because of their random aliments. On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 10:45 AM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote: The inverse cube law is normally seen when a two pole magnet is observed at a dimension that is relatively large compared to the spacing between those poles. If you monitor the field variation when close to one of the poles you get the second order behavior. The actual internal structure of the magnetic field generation is not known so it is highly speculative to assume that the external magnetic field originates from one tiny region within the reactor. I personally think that the field is the net vector sum of a very large number of tiny sources and hence may not become as large as is suggested as we close in on those individual sources. The time rate of change of the field becomes important as one attempts to understand the penetration of that field through the structure. A rapidly changing field is attenuated strongly by conductive material while a steady field has a free pass. It is OK to speculate wildly on vortex since that is one of the guiding principles, but we must always realize that most of these ideas will turn out to be false once the true nature of the beast is revealed. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Thu, Aug 21, 2014 1:55 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:LENR <-> dark mater <-> DDL connection-- DGT says that about 1 tesla is produced at 20 CMs intheir reactor. This 20CM location must be outside of the reactor. Thereaction zone is located inside a 200 micron nickel foam filled with 5 micronparticles. The magnetic activity is observed in "localize magnetictraps" (LMT). Because the 5 micron particles are not destroyed by the"bosenova" , the magnetic reaction must be centered is atthe tips of or just beyond the nanostructures that are associated with the 5micron particles. The dimensionality of the magnetic bosenova must be on thenanometer scale and nondestructive to micron level structures. The reactor is double faraday shielded. Was this magneticmeasurements done on an unshielded reactor. Let us assume the worst case thatthe magnetic measurements were done on an unshielded reactor. But the magneticfield must have penetrated the stainless steel pressure vessel and the metalreactor wall(s?). The tesla level field was detected at multiple points aroundthe reactor and the bosenova was depicted to occur inside the 200 micron nickelfoam. There are 20,000,000 million nanometers in 20CMs. But to thedistance of the bosenova must be added the radius of the hydrogen pressurevessel and the distance of the pressure vessel to the outside metal wall of thereactor; so 20 CMs is a worst case. There is an uncertainty of 200 microns in the origin of thebosenova because that reaction could occur anywhere inside the nickel foam. By the inverse square law, the power of a nanometer sized reactionis reckoned as the square of 20,000,000 with the dimension of tesla. Thatcomes to a MINIMUM of 10^^14 tesla which is correct for the creation of aquark/gluon plasma. I thought that the inverse cube law was the correct law to use but that would but the strength of the magnetic reaction into the twilight zone. I welcome opinion on this point.
