*the four neutron absorption remind be the 2,4 or 6 deuteron absorbed in Iwamura, as Ed Storms spotted.* *It is coherent with a symmetric reaction involving either 2/4/6 neutrons, or 2/4/6 hydrogen atoms .*
Yeah absolutely. Ed is one of the few who consistently highlighted this nugget as "important" in his books & articles (I barely have seen mention of it elsewhere outside of Iwamura & Arata). So if this is a "cluster" phenomenon, whether assisted by neutrons or not, it seems clearer that it is a 2-6 D or H reaction -- this sort of rules out the "megaclusters" of folks like Miley, Kim, etc. but that's just my opinion, but keeps stuff open to "small" cluster fusion effects like Takahashi/Storms/Meulenberg, or multi-body, global reaction distribution as seen in Hagelstein, Schwinger, etc. On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Alain Sepeda <[email protected]> wrote: > the four neutron absorption remind be the 2,4 or 6 deuteron absorbed in > Iwamura, as Ed Storms spotted. > It is coherent with a symmetric reaction involving either 2/4/6 neutrons, > or 2/4/6 hydrogen atoms . > > since there is no thermal neutron observed, there is no neutron involved > in high quantity, or at leas some will thermalize > > since there is no huge gamma, it looks natural that CoM is respected > because the reaction is symmetric in space. or else ther would be huge > charge particles and induced gamma from slowing dows and reactions in the > lattice... > > > > 2014-10-08 16:16 GMT+02:00 Jones Beene <[email protected]>: > >> Although LENR supporters will be impressed at first glance, the biggest >> problems – already being mentioned - and they could be fatal to wider >> acceptance, are that Levi remains the lead author and the lack of reliable >> calorimetry, and the strange isotope shifts. Look at these ! Bizarre and >> telling (to the extent they can be believed) ! >> >> >> >> Appendix 3, Table 1 seems to propose – on first glance - that the gain >> is coming from Ni58 being converted to Ni62 by stripping four neutrons from >> 4 atoms of Li7 to convert it to Li6. Wow but there is no gamma radiation or >> remnant emission from the ash. That M.O. is the first time this has come up >> but of course – lithium has been a known reactant since the start/. >> >> >> >> Is there a better explanation? >> >> >> >> I will have to admit to being both impressed with the detail and the >> equipment used, but mildly disappointed on first read – not so much that I >> do not believe this, but knowing how it will be received in a wider >> audience. >> >> >> >> This is probably not going to be the instant bombshell, or extremely >> well-prepared announcement from truly independent scientists that we had >> hoped for. However, it could mature to that level if this lithium transfer >> of neutrons can be independently established. >> >> >> >> And this could actually happen quickly. There has been interest in >> lithium, going back decades - in being among the few elements which can >> densify other elements, in the sense of being able to be completely >> absorbed into the electron shell instead of being covalently bound. I know >> of a Lab which has been looking into this lithium phenomenon for many years >> – off-and-on. It is possible that a truly independent confirmation of a >> lithium neutron transfer has been seen with another host, one which could >> lead to this result – and it will carry the day - but that could take a few >> weeks. >> >> >> >> Unfortunately there are some nuclear proliferation issues involved. >> >> >> >> *From:* Foks0904 >> >> >> >> Also wasn't this supposed to have been carried out by others beside Levi, >> Essen, and company? I don't see any new names here. Not that it matters to >> me, but won't we just hear the same bullshit objections that it's a "inside >> job"? >> >> >> >> It's here! And it's positive! I suppose not too shocking to any of us >> here. COP looks very healthy and somewhere in between French's magic >> numbers and Jones'/Brian Ahern's speculations. Also looks like the ash >> changed significantly indicating some kind of novel nuclear reaction, as >> indicated by Miles, McKubre, and many others from past PdD work. But I >> haven't looked it over thoroughly enough yet. Fun days ahead folks! >> >> >> >> Craig Haynie wrote: >> >> A very positive test. >> >> Craig >> >> >> >> On 10/08/2014 08:24 AM, Ron Kita wrote: >> >> Greetings Vortex-L, >> >> Just saw this....have not evaluated it: >> http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/10/08/e-cat-report-leaked/ >> >> Ad Astra, >> Ron Kita, Chiralex >> Doylestown PA >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
