There is a two. way full duplex energy transfer path between the SPP
condensate and the nuclear reactions via a magnetic field. Specifically a
anapole field.

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Bob Cook <frobertc...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>  I made a mistake in the 4th paragraph and have changed the wording to
> "one quanta" rather than "more one".
>
> Bob
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Bob Cook <frobertc...@hotmail.com>
> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2014 7:15 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?
>
> Axil, Robert, Jones etal.--
>
> How does the mass energy of a nucleus transfer to the plasmons described
> in this article?
>
>  It must be the secret sauce of Rossi's reactor.
>
> The mechanism of transferring the energy to the dipoles of the
> nanoplasmonic substance and, hence via super radiance to the lattice of the
> metal, seems correct assuming the  nanoplasmonic coherent system or entity
> is pumped up in energy by something.
>
> The paper cited does not address the possible ways of exciting the
> available plasmonic entity Eigen states.  It does suggest that Eigen values
> of spin 1 are preferred in the transfer of small quanta of energy  to the
> metal lattice and this suggests a mechanism for mass transfer to the
> plasmonic entity.
>
> Potentially, a two way reaction takes place where  an excited nucleus with
> its angular momentum  Eigen states   transfers one quanta of angular
> momentum to the plasmonic state.  This would change the odds for the return
> to a lower energy nuclear state of the original nucleus and
> potentially  favor  a new set of nuclei which conserve the angular momentum
> of the coherent system--nuclei and nanoplasmonic state  with a transfer of
> many additional quanta to the plasmonic entity one quanta at a time.
>
> The nanoplasmonic state then proceeds to transfer its excess angular
> momentum energy back to the metal lattice (as suggested in the paper from
> Jackson State and the French University contributors) with the excess mass
> changed to small bits of radiant energy and hence to heat.
>
> Exciting the Eigen states of the original nucleus is nothing more than
> what is done in NMR (MRI)  machines and maybe Rossi's reactor.
>
> In keeping with humble conjectures,
>
> Bob Cook
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
> *To:* vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 21, 2014 8:55 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?
>
> Please...yes, you are all on the right track,,,This is all standard
> nanoplasmonic theory. What is not covered by you good fellows yet and the
> area that I am still ahead on is how the SPP concentrate EMF and project it
> to cause nuclear reactions with the help of particle formation from the
> vacuum..
>
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 11:19 PM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>> Bob,
>>
>> The Pustovit paper you found certainly supplies the formalism for what we
>> are suggesting, and is almost too perfect.
>> http://arxiv.org/pdf/1001.0422v3.pdf
>> "Plasmon-mediated superradiance near metal nanostructures"
>>
>> I am taken aback by a Russian PhD at Jackson State - being the author, but
>> it is what it is. Lots of top-level Russians have come to the US simply to
>> get away from that madness.
>>
>> Of course, this interlocking set of hypotheses we are talking about - is
>> still a house of cards, and to combine so many mechanisms into a model
>> which
>> was ostensibly supposed to be based on nuclear fusion but is now
>> completely
>> different - is going to ruffle a lot of feathers.
>>
>> But clearly there is no nuclear reaction involved in this experiment, and
>> if
>> there can be 1.5 megawatt of heat with counts that are actually less than
>> background - I think we are on the right track to pursue any valid
>> alternative, even if the thermal gain was half the claim; and this hybrid
>> explanation is looking better and better as the papers mount up suggesting
>> that the SPP, superradiance and MIMS details are themselves relevant. The
>> Casimir leg of the table is a bit shakier, but maybe not since it is based
>> on solid results for several major Universities.
>>
>> Hopefully the MFMP will see a further validation of this M.O.  - if and
>> when
>> their "dummy" turns out to produce what could be slight gain. That would
>> be
>> my expectation.
>>
>> Thanks for your insight.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Robert Ellefson
>> Dear Vortex-L,
>>
>> Stimulated by Jones Beene's thoughts on a coherent lasing system based on
>> a
>> Dynamical Casimir Effect (DCE) from his postings earlier today, I hope to
>> encourage further discussion along these lines of thought.
>>
>> In reference to the characteristic morphology of the nickel ash grain
>> (particle 1, figure 2, page 43) that I described in this posting:
>>      http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l%40eskimo.com/msg98350.html
>>
>> I believe that the abundant 2-micron protrusions in the nickel ash
>> represent
>> dipole oscillators which have literally evolved from the initial nickel
>> fuel
>> grain clusters during the startup and then operation of reactor.   These
>> oscillators form a coupled, complex, highly non-linear system that could
>> be
>> described as a LENR-driven LASER analog, much like the SPASER systems that
>> are emerging in laboratories right now in the nanoscale, except these
>> structures are micron-scale.  One interesting paper which provides a
>> potential analog is:
>>       http://arxiv.org/pdf/1001.0422v3.pdf     ("Plasmon-mediated
>> superradiance near metal nanostructures")
>>
>> It is my contention that the observed microstructures in the nickel ash
>> grain are _directly homologous_ to the Eigen-modes of this coherent
>> system.
>> I believe that Ni-Li neutron exchange reactions are being stimulated by
>> SPP
>> and phonon interactions on the protruding structures, and are producing a
>> form of polychromatic superradiance such as that observed during reactions
>> involving Metastable Innershell Molecular States (MIMS, aka
>> ballotechnics).
>> I suspect the energy gain comes from the vacuum during the LENR reaction,
>> which I currently picture as a high-velocity collision of Li-Ni-Li that
>> produces a MIMS reaction which also (hand-waving here) exchanges neutrons
>> between lithium and nickel. This emits only intense photon and phonon
>> energy, some of which couples back into the system to drive further
>> reactions, while the rest is thermalized in the reactor shell.
>>
>> If this is true, then only the EMF stimulation is needed to control the
>> reactor via SPP pumping once a certain operating temperature threshold has
>> been reached by external heating.  Rossi could simplify his control by
>> separating these two functions of heating and EMF stimulation, I suspect.
>> This separation may be the primary function of the mouse/cat reactor
>> configuration, where the mouse emits primarily photons as the cat's
>> controlling input, once a minimum temperature is reached throughout the
>> system.
>>
>> Using only EMF pumping to control the reaction would also greatly improve
>> the COP, which may be part of the reason why the systems that Rossi
>> demonstrates still have combined heating and RF control inputs.
>>
>> I suspect that if you were to construct a good approximation of the nickel
>> ash grain morphology with natural nickel, combined it with lithium and
>> large
>> iron grains, and stimulated it with EMF while at a high enough
>> temperature,
>> that you would see this system become active and gainful.  A
>> high-resolution
>> 3-d printer could do this, as could a plethora of extant micro-fabrication
>> techniques.  Then again, given that Rossi's systems evolve in-situ from
>> powdered fuel, why bother with fabricating machines?  The main purpose I
>> can
>> think of for a designed and manufactured fuel morphology would be to
>> optimize the potential for electrical output while minimizing thermal
>> output.
>>
>> I hope these ideas are able to inspire further insights into this system.
>>
>> -Bob Ellefson
>>
>>
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