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On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:

> There is a two. way full duplex energy transfer path between the SPP
> condensate and the nuclear reactions via a magnetic field. Specifically a
> anapole field.
>
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Bob Cook <frobertc...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>  I made a mistake in the 4th paragraph and have changed the wording to
>> "one quanta" rather than "more one".
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Bob Cook <frobertc...@hotmail.com>
>> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2014 7:15 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?
>>
>> Axil, Robert, Jones etal.--
>>
>> How does the mass energy of a nucleus transfer to the plasmons described
>> in this article?
>>
>>  It must be the secret sauce of Rossi's reactor.
>>
>> The mechanism of transferring the energy to the dipoles of the
>> nanoplasmonic substance and, hence via super radiance to the lattice of the
>> metal, seems correct assuming the  nanoplasmonic coherent system or entity
>> is pumped up in energy by something.
>>
>> The paper cited does not address the possible ways of exciting the
>> available plasmonic entity Eigen states.  It does suggest that Eigen values
>> of spin 1 are preferred in the transfer of small quanta of energy  to the
>> metal lattice and this suggests a mechanism for mass transfer to the
>> plasmonic entity.
>>
>> Potentially, a two way reaction takes place where  an excited nucleus
>> with its angular momentum  Eigen states   transfers one quanta of angular
>> momentum to the plasmonic state.  This would change the odds for the return
>> to a lower energy nuclear state of the original nucleus and
>> potentially  favor  a new set of nuclei which conserve the angular momentum
>> of the coherent system--nuclei and nanoplasmonic state  with a transfer of
>> many additional quanta to the plasmonic entity one quanta at a time.
>>
>> The nanoplasmonic state then proceeds to transfer its excess angular
>> momentum energy back to the metal lattice (as suggested in the paper from
>> Jackson State and the French University contributors) with the excess mass
>> changed to small bits of radiant energy and hence to heat.
>>
>> Exciting the Eigen states of the original nucleus is nothing more than
>> what is done in NMR (MRI)  machines and maybe Rossi's reactor.
>>
>> In keeping with humble conjectures,
>>
>> Bob Cook
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
>> *To:* vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 21, 2014 8:55 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?
>>
>> Please...yes, you are all on the right track,,,This is all standard
>> nanoplasmonic theory. What is not covered by you good fellows yet and the
>> area that I am still ahead on is how the SPP concentrate EMF and project it
>> to cause nuclear reactions with the help of particle formation from the
>> vacuum..
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 11:19 PM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Bob,
>>>
>>> The Pustovit paper you found certainly supplies the formalism for what we
>>> are suggesting, and is almost too perfect.
>>> http://arxiv.org/pdf/1001.0422v3.pdf
>>> "Plasmon-mediated superradiance near metal nanostructures"
>>>
>>> I am taken aback by a Russian PhD at Jackson State - being the author,
>>> but
>>> it is what it is. Lots of top-level Russians have come to the US simply
>>> to
>>> get away from that madness.
>>>
>>> Of course, this interlocking set of hypotheses we are talking about - is
>>> still a house of cards, and to combine so many mechanisms into a model
>>> which
>>> was ostensibly supposed to be based on nuclear fusion but is now
>>> completely
>>> different - is going to ruffle a lot of feathers.
>>>
>>> But clearly there is no nuclear reaction involved in this experiment,
>>> and if
>>> there can be 1.5 megawatt of heat with counts that are actually less than
>>> background - I think we are on the right track to pursue any valid
>>> alternative, even if the thermal gain was half the claim; and this hybrid
>>> explanation is looking better and better as the papers mount up
>>> suggesting
>>> that the SPP, superradiance and MIMS details are themselves relevant. The
>>> Casimir leg of the table is a bit shakier, but maybe not since it is
>>> based
>>> on solid results for several major Universities.
>>>
>>> Hopefully the MFMP will see a further validation of this M.O.  - if and
>>> when
>>> their "dummy" turns out to produce what could be slight gain. That would
>>> be
>>> my expectation.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your insight.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Robert Ellefson
>>> Dear Vortex-L,
>>>
>>> Stimulated by Jones Beene's thoughts on a coherent lasing system based
>>> on a
>>> Dynamical Casimir Effect (DCE) from his postings earlier today, I hope to
>>> encourage further discussion along these lines of thought.
>>>
>>> In reference to the characteristic morphology of the nickel ash grain
>>> (particle 1, figure 2, page 43) that I described in this posting:
>>>      http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l%40eskimo.com/msg98350.html
>>>
>>> I believe that the abundant 2-micron protrusions in the nickel ash
>>> represent
>>> dipole oscillators which have literally evolved from the initial nickel
>>> fuel
>>> grain clusters during the startup and then operation of reactor.   These
>>> oscillators form a coupled, complex, highly non-linear system that could
>>> be
>>> described as a LENR-driven LASER analog, much like the SPASER systems
>>> that
>>> are emerging in laboratories right now in the nanoscale, except these
>>> structures are micron-scale.  One interesting paper which provides a
>>> potential analog is:
>>>       http://arxiv.org/pdf/1001.0422v3.pdf     ("Plasmon-mediated
>>> superradiance near metal nanostructures")
>>>
>>> It is my contention that the observed microstructures in the nickel ash
>>> grain are _directly homologous_ to the Eigen-modes of this coherent
>>> system.
>>> I believe that Ni-Li neutron exchange reactions are being stimulated by
>>> SPP
>>> and phonon interactions on the protruding structures, and are producing a
>>> form of polychromatic superradiance such as that observed during
>>> reactions
>>> involving Metastable Innershell Molecular States (MIMS, aka
>>> ballotechnics).
>>> I suspect the energy gain comes from the vacuum during the LENR reaction,
>>> which I currently picture as a high-velocity collision of Li-Ni-Li that
>>> produces a MIMS reaction which also (hand-waving here) exchanges neutrons
>>> between lithium and nickel. This emits only intense photon and phonon
>>> energy, some of which couples back into the system to drive further
>>> reactions, while the rest is thermalized in the reactor shell.
>>>
>>> If this is true, then only the EMF stimulation is needed to control the
>>> reactor via SPP pumping once a certain operating temperature threshold
>>> has
>>> been reached by external heating.  Rossi could simplify his control by
>>> separating these two functions of heating and EMF stimulation, I suspect.
>>> This separation may be the primary function of the mouse/cat reactor
>>> configuration, where the mouse emits primarily photons as the cat's
>>> controlling input, once a minimum temperature is reached throughout the
>>> system.
>>>
>>> Using only EMF pumping to control the reaction would also greatly improve
>>> the COP, which may be part of the reason why the systems that Rossi
>>> demonstrates still have combined heating and RF control inputs.
>>>
>>> I suspect that if you were to construct a good approximation of the
>>> nickel
>>> ash grain morphology with natural nickel, combined it with lithium and
>>> large
>>> iron grains, and stimulated it with EMF while at a high enough
>>> temperature,
>>> that you would see this system become active and gainful.  A
>>> high-resolution
>>> 3-d printer could do this, as could a plethora of extant
>>> micro-fabrication
>>> techniques.  Then again, given that Rossi's systems evolve in-situ from
>>> powdered fuel, why bother with fabricating machines?  The main purpose I
>>> can
>>> think of for a designed and manufactured fuel morphology would be to
>>> optimize the potential for electrical output while minimizing thermal
>>> output.
>>>
>>> I hope these ideas are able to inspire further insights into this system.
>>>
>>> -Bob Ellefson
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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