ChemE--

Thanks for that reference.  It includes the action of local E and B fields in 
the Hamiltonian and suggests what Axil identified about anapole fields.   What 
that Hamiltonian looks like in the solid state is more complicated IMHO.

Bob
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  From: ChemE Stewart 
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  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toroidal_moment



  On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:

    There is a two. way full duplex energy transfer path between the SPP 
condensate and the nuclear reactions via a magnetic field. Specifically a 
anapole field.


    On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Bob Cook <frobertc...@hotmail.com> wrote:

      I made a mistake in the 4th paragraph and have changed the wording to 
"one quanta" rather than "more one".

      Bob
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        Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 7:15 AM
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        Axil, Robert, Jones etal.--

        How does the mass energy of a nucleus transfer to the plasmons 
described in this article? 

         It must be the secret sauce of Rossi's reactor. 

        The mechanism of transferring the energy to the dipoles of the 
nanoplasmonic substance and, hence via super radiance to the lattice of the 
metal, seems correct assuming the  nanoplasmonic coherent system or entity is 
pumped up in energy by something.  

        The paper cited does not address the possible ways of exciting the 
available plasmonic entity Eigen states.  It does suggest that Eigen values of 
spin 1 are preferred in the transfer of small quanta of energy  to the metal 
lattice and this suggests a mechanism for mass transfer to the plasmonic entity.

        Potentially, a two way reaction takes place where  an excited nucleus 
with its angular momentum  Eigen states   transfers one quanta of angular 
momentum to the plasmonic state.  This would change the odds for the return to 
a lower energy nuclear state of the original nucleus and potentially  favor  a 
new set of nuclei which conserve the angular momentum of the coherent 
system--nuclei and nanoplasmonic state  with a transfer of many additional 
quanta to the plasmonic entity one quanta at a time. 

        The nanoplasmonic state then proceeds to transfer its excess angular 
momentum energy back to the metal lattice (as suggested in the paper from 
Jackson State and the French University contributors) with the excess mass 
changed to small bits of radiant energy and hence to heat.   

        Exciting the Eigen states of the original nucleus is nothing more than 
what is done in NMR (MRI)  machines and maybe Rossi's reactor.  

        In keeping with humble conjectures, 

        Bob Cook

          
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          From: Axil Axil 
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          Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 8:55 PM
          Subject: Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?


          Please...yes, you are all on the right track,,,This is all standard 
nanoplasmonic theory. What is not covered by you good fellows yet and the area 
that I am still ahead on is how the SPP concentrate EMF and project it to cause 
nuclear reactions with the help of particle formation from the vacuum..


          On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 11:19 PM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> 
wrote:

            Bob,

            The Pustovit paper you found certainly supplies the formalism for 
what we
            are suggesting, and is almost too perfect.
            http://arxiv.org/pdf/1001.0422v3.pdf
            "Plasmon-mediated superradiance near metal nanostructures"

            I am taken aback by a Russian PhD at Jackson State - being the 
author, but
            it is what it is. Lots of top-level Russians have come to the US 
simply to
            get away from that madness.

            Of course, this interlocking set of hypotheses we are talking about 
- is
            still a house of cards, and to combine so many mechanisms into a 
model which
            was ostensibly supposed to be based on nuclear fusion but is now 
completely
            different - is going to ruffle a lot of feathers.

            But clearly there is no nuclear reaction involved in this 
experiment, and if
            there can be 1.5 megawatt of heat with counts that are actually 
less than
            background - I think we are on the right track to pursue any valid
            alternative, even if the thermal gain was half the claim; and this 
hybrid
            explanation is looking better and better as the papers mount up 
suggesting
            that the SPP, superradiance and MIMS details are themselves 
relevant. The
            Casimir leg of the table is a bit shakier, but maybe not since it 
is based
            on solid results for several major Universities.

            Hopefully the MFMP will see a further validation of this M.O.  - if 
and when
            their "dummy" turns out to produce what could be slight gain. That 
would be
            my expectation.

            Thanks for your insight.


            -----Original Message-----
            From: Robert Ellefson
            Dear Vortex-L,

            Stimulated by Jones Beene's thoughts on a coherent lasing system 
based on a
            Dynamical Casimir Effect (DCE) from his postings earlier today, I 
hope to
            encourage further discussion along these lines of thought.

            In reference to the characteristic morphology of the nickel ash 
grain
            (particle 1, figure 2, page 43) that I described in this posting:
                 http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l%40eskimo.com/msg98350.html

            I believe that the abundant 2-micron protrusions in the nickel ash 
represent
            dipole oscillators which have literally evolved from the initial 
nickel fuel
            grain clusters during the startup and then operation of reactor.   
These
            oscillators form a coupled, complex, highly non-linear system that 
could be
            described as a LENR-driven LASER analog, much like the SPASER 
systems that
            are emerging in laboratories right now in the nanoscale, except 
these
            structures are micron-scale.  One interesting paper which provides a
            potential analog is:
                  http://arxiv.org/pdf/1001.0422v3.pdf     ("Plasmon-mediated
            superradiance near metal nanostructures")

            It is my contention that the observed microstructures in the nickel 
ash
            grain are _directly homologous_ to the Eigen-modes of this coherent 
system.
            I believe that Ni-Li neutron exchange reactions are being 
stimulated by SPP
            and phonon interactions on the protruding structures, and are 
producing a
            form of polychromatic superradiance such as that observed during 
reactions
            involving Metastable Innershell Molecular States (MIMS, aka 
ballotechnics).
            I suspect the energy gain comes from the vacuum during the LENR 
reaction,
            which I currently picture as a high-velocity collision of Li-Ni-Li 
that
            produces a MIMS reaction which also (hand-waving here) exchanges 
neutrons
            between lithium and nickel. This emits only intense photon and 
phonon
            energy, some of which couples back into the system to drive further
            reactions, while the rest is thermalized in the reactor shell.

            If this is true, then only the EMF stimulation is needed to control 
the
            reactor via SPP pumping once a certain operating temperature 
threshold has
            been reached by external heating.  Rossi could simplify his control 
by
            separating these two functions of heating and EMF stimulation, I 
suspect.
            This separation may be the primary function of the mouse/cat reactor
            configuration, where the mouse emits primarily photons as the cat's
            controlling input, once a minimum temperature is reached throughout 
the
            system.

            Using only EMF pumping to control the reaction would also greatly 
improve
            the COP, which may be part of the reason why the systems that Rossi
            demonstrates still have combined heating and RF control inputs.

            I suspect that if you were to construct a good approximation of the 
nickel
            ash grain morphology with natural nickel, combined it with lithium 
and large
            iron grains, and stimulated it with EMF while at a high enough 
temperature,
            that you would see this system become active and gainful.  A 
high-resolution
            3-d printer could do this, as could a plethora of extant 
micro-fabrication
            techniques.  Then again, given that Rossi's systems evolve in-situ 
from
            powdered fuel, why bother with fabricating machines?  The main 
purpose I can
            think of for a designed and manufactured fuel morphology would be to
            optimize the potential for electrical output while minimizing 
thermal
            output.

            I hope these ideas are able to inspire further insights into this 
system.

            -Bob Ellefson













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