The fact that energy can be extracted from the battery to drive the microwave 
source is certainly possible.  No one will ague against that point.  The 
problem is that this energy can be depleted without having anything to show for 
its loss.  If taken to the extreme most of the ship can be converted into 
energy by some nuclear process to supply power for the drive mechanism.

After the drive is shut down the ship stops accelerating and comes to rest in 
space.  Even though the new velocity is different than the old one before the 
drive operates, a guy onboard the ship can not determine that he is moving.  He 
will not have any kinetic energy relative to himself.  He sees that his ships 
mass has depleted but has nothing to show where it went.  With a normal drive 
the guy can see the exhaust that is moving relative to him which contains all 
of the converted energy.

Dave

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Walker <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, Nov 24, 2014 12:02 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:They call me a moron. A reply.



On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 8:26 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote:


I encourage anyone out there with knowledge about how to overcome the obvious 
problems to offer their input.



One thought here -- the "reactionless drive" that I am aware of being in the 
recent news is the EmDrive.  That one involves the generation of microwaves and 
their reflection in a cavity.  It's not clear whether anyone other than Nasa 
and the inventor believe that it works as advertised.  But if it does, note 
that energy must be expended to generate the microwaves, e.g., by a battery, to 
which the usual E=mc^2 conversion will apply.


Eric



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