Hi Anu,

in case you have oscillations, it is actually more appropriate to
decrease spline_step parameter, which will make the spline 'less stiff'.

Good luck!

-Sebastian
> Hi Christoph and Sebastian,
>
> I have tried all the options with no luck. The compressibility of CG
> is different than the EX so I tried adding the cg_prefactor. But this
> hasn't improved the number of cycles. 
>
> When comparing the densities like Sebastian suggested, I found that
> there were oscillations so I have increased the spline length. That
> hasn't helped either. The spline max right now is equal to the box
> length. 
>
> I have increased ex_force_cap, played around with spline values and
> equi_time. Is there anything else I can try?
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
> Anu
>
> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Christoph Junghans
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     2012/11/2  <[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>     > Hi Anu,
>     >
>     > I just have a few things to add:
>     >
>     > - after the first iteration, check the density profile after spline
>     > smoothing in .smooth.dens (compare to the raw density file in
>     .dist.new). If
>     > there are oscillations, you have to tune the spline parameters.
>     > - I am not sure postupd scale applies, but you can as well
>     simply reduce the
>     > prefactor to see if it is to high ( this may very well be if
>     your CG model
>     > has a different compressibility)
>     Yes, postupd scale works as well, but out of all post update scripts
>     scale and smooth are the only useful ones for the ft iteration.
>
>     Scaling the prefactor scales the forces (before integration) while
>     postupd scale scales the potential (after spline fit and integration),
>     so the result could be slightly different, but in principle it does
>     the same.
>
>     If you add the prefactor from the coarse-grained compressibility in
>     cg_prefactor, a linear interpolation between cg_prefactor and the
>     prefactor from the explicit compressibility will be used as a
>     prefactor in the hybrid zone automatically.
>
>     Christoph
>
>     > - Increase the total simulation time per iteration step and
>     trash some of
>     > the trajectory in the beggining using gromacs.equi_time in the
>     settings file
>     >
>     > Good luck!
>     >
>     >
>     > -Sebastian
>     >
>     > Zitat von Christoph Junghans <[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>     >
>     >> Hi,
>     >>
>     >> 2012/10/31 Anu Nagarajan <[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>     >>>
>     >>> Hi,
>     >>>
>     >>> I am trying to run the thermodynamic force using csg_inverse.
>     I have the
>     >>> settings.xml file with appropriate options for my system. But,
>     when I try
>     >>> to
>     >>> run TF, I get about 2-3 iterations after which the temperature
>     gets
>     >>> really
>     >>> high and the system becomes unstable. I have the latest
>     version (1.2.3)
>     >>> of
>     >>> votca. I computed the prefactor based on the compressibility
>     of the
>     >>> atomistic region.  According to the tutorial and the paper, I
>     have set
>     >>> the
>     >>> TF range to be d(skin)+d(at)+d(hy)+d(skin) where d(skin) is
>     right now
>     >>> half
>     >>> the cutoff distance. The entire molecule is one charge group
>     and I have
>     >>> 12
>     >>> atoms plus virtual site.  Do I have to change any values in the
>     >>> settings.xml
>     >>> file? Is there anything I might be missing?
>     >>
>     >> The parameters will depend on the system you study.
>     >> Here are some things you could try:
>     >> - increase adress_ex_forcecap in the mdp file
>     >> - increase the spline grid (spline_start, spline_end in
>     >> cg.non-bonded.inverse.tf <http://cg.non-bonded.inverse.tf>) in
>     setting.xml
>     >> - add a cg_prefactor in  cg.non-bonded.inverse.tf
>     <http://cg.non-bonded.inverse.tf>, which is based on
>     >> the compressibility of the cg model
>     >> - scale the update (add postupd task scale) by something < 1
>     >>
>     >> Sebastian, please add stuff if I have missed something.
>     >>
>     >> Christoph
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>> I appreciate any help in this matter!
>     >>>
>     >>> Thanks!
>     >>> Anu
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