Hi Sebastian,

How small can I make it? I tried 0.1 but couldn't go below that value. Does
it also depend on the step value for tf?

Anu


On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Sebastian Fritsch <
[email protected]> wrote:

> **
> Hi Anu,
>
>
> in case you have oscillations, it is actually more appropriate to decrease
> spline_step parameter, which will make the spline 'less stiff'.
>
> Good luck!
>
> -Sebastian
>
> Hi Christoph and Sebastian,
>
> I have tried all the options with no luck. The compressibility of CG is
> different than the EX so I tried adding the cg_prefactor. But this hasn't
> improved the number of cycles.
>
>  When comparing the densities like Sebastian suggested, I found that
> there were oscillations so I have increased the spline length. That hasn't
> helped either. The spline max right now is equal to the box length.
>
>  I have increased ex_force_cap, played around with spline values and
> equi_time. Is there anything else I can try?
>
>  Thanks a lot!
>
>  Anu
>
> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Christoph Junghans <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> 2012/11/2  <[email protected]>:
>> > Hi Anu,
>> >
>> > I just have a few things to add:
>> >
>> > - after the first iteration, check the density profile after spline
>> > smoothing in .smooth.dens (compare to the raw density file in
>> .dist.new). If
>> > there are oscillations, you have to tune the spline parameters.
>> > - I am not sure postupd scale applies, but you can as well simply
>> reduce the
>> > prefactor to see if it is to high ( this may very well be if your CG
>> model
>> > has a different compressibility)
>>  Yes, postupd scale works as well, but out of all post update scripts
>> scale and smooth are the only useful ones for the ft iteration.
>>
>> Scaling the prefactor scales the forces (before integration) while
>> postupd scale scales the potential (after spline fit and integration),
>> so the result could be slightly different, but in principle it does
>> the same.
>>
>> If you add the prefactor from the coarse-grained compressibility in
>> cg_prefactor, a linear interpolation between cg_prefactor and the
>> prefactor from the explicit compressibility will be used as a
>> prefactor in the hybrid zone automatically.
>>
>> Christoph
>>
>> > - Increase the total simulation time per iteration step and trash some
>> of
>> > the trajectory in the beggining using gromacs.equi_time in the settings
>> file
>> >
>> > Good luck!
>> >
>> >
>> > -Sebastian
>> >
>> > Zitat von Christoph Junghans <[email protected]>:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> 2012/10/31 Anu Nagarajan <[email protected]>:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> I am trying to run the thermodynamic force using csg_inverse. I have
>> the
>> >>> settings.xml file with appropriate options for my system. But, when I
>> try
>> >>> to
>> >>> run TF, I get about 2-3 iterations after which the temperature gets
>> >>> really
>> >>> high and the system becomes unstable. I have the latest version
>> (1.2.3)
>> >>> of
>> >>> votca. I computed the prefactor based on the compressibility of the
>> >>> atomistic region.  According to the tutorial and the paper, I have set
>> >>> the
>> >>> TF range to be d(skin)+d(at)+d(hy)+d(skin) where d(skin) is right now
>> >>> half
>> >>> the cutoff distance. The entire molecule is one charge group and I
>> have
>> >>> 12
>> >>> atoms plus virtual site.  Do I have to change any values in the
>> >>> settings.xml
>> >>> file? Is there anything I might be missing?
>> >>
>> >> The parameters will depend on the system you study.
>> >> Here are some things you could try:
>> >> - increase adress_ex_forcecap in the mdp file
>> >> - increase the spline grid (spline_start, spline_end in
>> >> cg.non-bonded.inverse.tf) in setting.xml
>> >> - add a cg_prefactor in  cg.non-bonded.inverse.tf, which is based on
>> >> the compressibility of the cg model
>> >> - scale the update (add postupd task scale) by something < 1
>> >>
>> >> Sebastian, please add stuff if I have missed something.
>> >>
>> >> Christoph
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> I appreciate any help in this matter!
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks!
>> >>> Anu
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