I recently upgraded my 25 year old Regal and to a Renzetti Traveler (w/ cam
lock), after hearing many positive things about them, both from shop staff
and previous owners.  Though I've only had it for a few weels and have only
tied a limited range of flies so far, I'm quite impressed with it.  While
substantially lighter in construction than the Regal, I expect it will be
plenty sturdy for most of the things I'll require of it.  A little rough in
appearance and probably not as precisely machined as some of the higher end
products, it seems reasonably well done and certainly serviceable and
certainly a relative bargain at $160.  I guess my major gripes (the
relatively light weight construction aside - well, relative to that boat
anchor of a vise that the Regal was, and I guess I've got to keep in mind
this is the "Traveler" model after all) is that the rotary function tension
adjustment was a little fussy (though has held once properly adjusted) and
the cam had a definite roughness (almost gritty) quality, at least
initially.  Both improved after taking the thing apart and re-lubing it with
a quality synthetic grease.

The "true" rotary function is great - both for actual rotary tying (winding
body materials, etc.) and for the 360 degree inspection function - and
certainly makes tying in underhook materials, such as throat hackles, much
easier.  Flies look better and go together faster than with a fixed head
vise.  I found the rotary tying style easy to adapt to, though the extra
steps required - half-hitching your tying thread and hanging the bobbin on
the special support before beginning the winding - a little annoying,
particularly since my focus over the last 20 years has been *eliminating*
tying steps <g>.  Still, it does produce some damn nice looking fly bodies
and I expect the two little extra steps will become second nature before
long.

One factor to consider - especially for a 'lifetime vise' - is whether the
company will be around to support it in 10 or 20 (or 40) years.  This is
where a company like Renzetti or Regal seems to have an edge.  In fact, now
that I have my Renzetti, my Regal is going back to the factory for a well
earned refurbishment!

BTW, I stuck with the C-Clamp.  I invested in a "universal C-Clamp" adapter,
shortly after buying my Regal, that allows the C-clamp to work with almost
any thickness table (or tree limb, or whatever), addressing what I saw as
the major shortcoming of the C-clamp style vises.  The C-clamp does have the
advantage that when you really need to reef down on it - like last night
when I was bending some hook eyes so that I could snell them properly for
stinger hooks for the Miyawaki Poppers I was tying.  The C-clamp is, of
course, also lighter and more compact, a plus if you're planning on actually
using your vise as a traveller.

-Wes

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 9:09 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Fly Vise Help
>
>
> I have a $120 gift certificate for any Cabela's product.  After looking
> through their catalog, I decided to upgrade my non-rotary and non-pedestal
> Regal fly vise.  My range of hook sizes in the past has been between 16
> and 2/0.  I have never used a pedestal vise, but it looks convenient.
>
> I'm thinking of going with the Dyna-King Barracuda model.  I have not seen
> or heard of the Danvise or Griffin vises.  Is the Renzetti Master Vise
> worth $600??
>
> Any comments welcome, I want this to be the last vise I buy!
>
> Here is what Cabela's has to offer...
>
> Vise  Price   Hook_size       Pedestal
> Danvise New Classic   $79.99  ?       N
> Dyna-King Barracuda   $319.00         ?       Y
> Griffin Odyssey       $139.50         28 to 4/0       N
> Nor-Vise      $245.00         ?       Y
> Regal Rotary  $164.99         ?       Y
> Renzetti Cam Series Traveler  $159.95         28 to 4/0       N
> Renzetti Master Vise  $599.99         28 to 10/0      Y
> Renzetti Presentation 4000    $334.99         ?       Y
>
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>       Scott                       The members of this genus (Salvelinus-
>       Craig                         includes Bull trout & Dolly Varden)
>                                    are by far the most active and
> handsome
>      Practise                           of the trout, they live in the
>   Catch & Release              coldest, cleanest and most secluded waters.
>  on Wild Salmonids
>                                       No higher praise can be given to a
> http://www.eskimo.com/~craigs        Salmonid than to say, it is a charr.
>                                            (Jordan and Evermann 1896)
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