Ray, When you "collar" a fly it is usually is the last feather to be tied in at the front. If you take a phesant feather, for example and "fold it" over on itself, then trim the tip and tie it in, make about 1 1/2 to 2 turns around the hook shank and tie off. This will give a good shape to the fly and help keep the marabou from slimming down and losing its profile.
Also, if you have removed the stems from the marabou before tying them in it will help the fly sink. The most boyant part of the feather is the stem, and there is no reason to add lead if you don't have to as it kills the action of the fly. Like I said before, a heavy hook and as light of a tippet you can get away with will get the fly down and impart a lot of action. Try it and see if you like it :) Tim <>< On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 00:19:01 -0800 Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >As I am semi new (restarting to tie) what do you mean by a collar feather? >is this in front or behind the marabou? I have tried putting a small ball of >dubbing that seems to be working very well (this was a tip from this email >list that I was grateful to receive). > >Thank you, >Ray :-) > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Tim Coleman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 6:16 PM >Subject: Re: Weighted flies > > >> One of the things I done to help me my marabou patterns sink, without >having to resort to added weight, is to remove the stems before tying the >marabou on. I put the feather in a loop and spin it on, it gives it a full >effect without a lot of bulk. I'll then add a collar feather to improve the >silhouette. Additionally, I use a heavy wire hook and as small of a tippet >as I can get away with. >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Tim <>< >> >> On Fri, 4 Jan 2002 18:52:48 -0800 Rob Blomquist ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >On Friday 04 January 2002 04:38 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke: >> >> Have you folks ever checked out the "extra" depth you get with a >weighed >> >>fly in a wet fly swing? >> > >> >Well, there are several things that come into play in a fly that is >sinking. >> > >> >First off, its weight. But I guess that's a little bonehead for this >gang, >> >Then, there is the total resistance to sinking which is everything added >to >> >the hook. The best sinking fly will be a bare hook of the heaviest metal >that >> >you care to tie with. Anything that adds to that bare hook slows it down. >Big >> >marabous, big bunny leaches, big patterns of cactus chenille, or anything >> >like these are tougher to sink if only for what they are made of. >> > >> >I was chatting with my local fly shop purveyor about my fishing methods >and >> >lack of sucess, and he suggested that I work on tying heavier flies by >using >> >heavier, bigger hooks. As my type 4 sink tip and my 4 foot leader are >right, >> >but my flies are probably rising up off the bottom due to their size and >> >resistance. >> > >> >So I have shifted to tying only patterns on #1-3/0, and weighting the fly >if >> >necessary to get the size and sink rate I want. You ought to see the wire >> >size on a Tiemco 7999 3/0. I have also been paring down my marabous so >they >> >sink faster with less hackle. >> > >> >I have only been able to fish them for a short time on the Tolt last >weekend, >> >but they sunk like rocks with thin marabou hackles, and tinsel bodies. It >was >> >quite amazing to see. Heck and that was with no prewetting of the >marabou. >> > >> >Rob >> > >> >-- >> >Rob Blomquist >> >Kirkland, WA >> > >> > >> >> Have you gotten your free email at fishing.com or flyfishing.com? I got >mine, come get yours! Visit www.fishing.com or www.flyfishing.com to sign >up! >> > >
