Those weighted flies are tough on rod tips. I broke one in 2000 and another in 2001 because of either weighted flies or sharp hook points.
Luckily both were Sages and were repaired under warranty. One was a graphite 2 and took an additional $70 for an upgrade to newer generation graphite. Bill W > ---------- > From: rderedfield[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 1:36 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Weighted flies > > > > > Hey guys, if weighted flies aren't that effective at achieving the desired > result (i.e. sinking), then what's up with Clousers? Bead heads? or any > weight at all? Ever fished in Montana with a floating line and a heavily > weighted salmonfly nymph or a double bunny? They sink like rocks (and > feel like one when you get hit in the back with it on the forward cast, > but of course I'm just guessin on that one - grin). Those weighted flies > seem to be pretty effective . . . > > I bet Patrick Peterson is grinning big time about this "weighted fly" > exchange - he's not fond of sink tips, and prefers weighted flies in many > circumstances. I've seen him pretty effectively fish some pretty good > depths using a floating line, long leader, and weighted fly set up. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Wes.Neuenschwander (@Home) > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 10:53 AM > Subject: RE: Weighted flies > > An excellent observation Tom, and in accord with what I've noticed > over the years as well. These observations are also consistent with > simple mechanical analysis of the setup: The weight - which provides the > only "down force" is concentrated on the far end at the fly. "Up force" > is generated - to varying degrees, depending on line diameter, line angle > and current speed - along the entire length of the wetted portion of the > line. A more detailed analysis would be considerably more complex and > would need to take into account factors such as line flexibility and > aerodynamic lift, etc. as well as current speed variations along the > length of the line, but even the simple analysis makes the point: Every > inch of the line (and leader) is pushing up while the only thing pushing > down is the little gob of steel and lead at the far end. And lest you > tend to discount this upward push effect as trivial, keep in mind next > time you're flying it's *exactly* this effect that's keeping you from > falling into those fields below (only in this case it's air and it's > pushing on the wings of the plane). > > I think where weight really does come in handy is in slow or still > water environments (or dead-drifted in faster water) where the weight > imparts an action distinct from that of a weighted line, and for getting > right on the bottom when fishing a swung fly in stronger currents. In the > latter case the force is applied exactly where it's required (at the very > end) and helps avoid the nasty snagging that occurs when the entire fly > line (or even just the tip) drags the bottom. > > -Wes > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 4:39 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Weighted flies > > > > Have you folks ever checked out the "extra" depth you get > with a weighed fly in a wet fly swing? > My observation has been that weighted flies create very > little additional depth over what your sinktip provides. > Suspend your sinktip in the current in front of you some > time, and check out the difference in depth of the end of the sinktip, and > a weighted fly. > For what it is worth, I use a 15' type VI for 80% of my > swinging wet fishing. > Hey, I enjoy the comparison of techniques/ideas. That's > what is cool about this group. > Let's all look forward to the arrival of the natives who > will move to a fly! > Tom Moore > > > >
