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Hey guys, if weighted flies aren't that effective
at achieving the desired result (i.e. sinking), then what's up with
Clousers? Bead heads? or any weight at all? Ever fished in Montana
with a floating line and a heavily weighted salmonfly nymph or a double
bunny? They sink like rocks (and feel like one when you get hit in the
back with it on the forward cast, but of course I'm just guessin on that one -
grin). Those weighted flies seem to be pretty effective . . .
I bet Patrick Peterson is grinning big time about
this "weighted fly" exchange - he's not fond of sink tips, and prefers weighted
flies in many circumstances. I've seen him pretty effectively fish some
pretty good depths using a floating line, long leader, and weighted fly set
up.
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Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 10:53
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Subject: RE: Weighted flies
An
excellent observation Tom, and in accord with what I've noticed over the years
as well. These observations are also consistent with simple
mechanical analysis of the setup: The weight - which provides the only
"down force" is concentrated on the far end at the fly. "Up force"
is generated - to varying degrees, depending on line diameter, line angle and
current speed - along the entire length of the wetted portion of the
line. A more detailed analysis would be considerably more complex and
would need to take into account factors such as line flexibility and
aerodynamic lift, etc. as well as current speed variations along the length of
the line, but even the simple analysis makes the point: Every inch of
the line (and leader) is pushing up while the only thing pushing
down is the little gob of steel and lead at the far end. And lest you
tend to discount this upward push effect as trivial, keep in mind next
time you're flying it's *exactly* this effect that's keeping you
from falling into those fields below (only in this case it's air and it's
pushing on the wings of the plane).
I
think where weight really does come in handy is in slow or still water
environments (or dead-drifted in faster water) where the weight imparts an
action distinct from that of a weighted line, and for getting right on the
bottom when fishing a swung fly in stronger currents. In the latter case
the force is applied exactly where it's required (at the very end) and helps
avoid the nasty snagging that occurs when the entire fly line (or even just
the tip) drags the bottom.
-Wes
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Subject: Weighted
flies
Have you folks ever checked out the
"extra" depth you get with a weighed fly in a wet fly swing?
My
observation has been that weighted flies create very little additional depth
over what your sinktip provides.
Suspend your sinktip in the current in
front of you some time, and check out the difference in depth of the end of
the sinktip, and a weighted fly.
For what it is worth, I use a 15' type
VI for 80% of my swinging wet fishing.
Hey, I enjoy the comparison of
techniques/ideas. That's what is cool about this group.
Let's all
look forward to the arrival of the natives who will move to a fly!
Tom
Moore
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