Yeah I've seen your flies too Mr Coleman-unfortuntately they are always
gorgeous & catch fish.  Nice to hear from you.  bill hamilton
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Coleman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: Weighted flies


> One of the things I done to help me my marabou patterns sink, without
having to resort to added weight, is to remove the stems before tying the
marabou on.  I put the feather in a loop and spin it on, it gives it a full
effect without a lot of bulk.  I'll then add a collar feather to improve the
silhouette.  Additionally, I use a heavy wire hook and as small of a tippet
as I can get away with.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Tim <><
>
> On Fri, 4 Jan 2002 18:52:48 -0800 Rob Blomquist
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On Friday 04 January 2002 04:38 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke:
> >> Have you folks ever checked out the "extra" depth you get with a
weighed
> >>fly in a wet fly swing?
> >
> >Well, there are several things that come into play in a fly that is
sinking.
> >
> >First off, its weight. But I guess that's a little bonehead for this
gang,
> >Then, there is the total resistance to sinking which is everything added
to
> >the hook. The best sinking fly will be a bare hook of the heaviest metal
that
> >you care to tie with. Anything that adds to that bare hook slows it down.
Big
> >marabous, big bunny leaches, big patterns of cactus chenille, or anything
> >like these are tougher to sink if only for what they are made of.
> >
> >I was chatting with my local fly shop purveyor about my fishing methods
and
> >lack of sucess, and he suggested that I work on tying heavier flies by
using
> >heavier, bigger hooks. As my type 4 sink tip and my 4 foot leader are
right,
> >but my flies are probably rising up off the bottom due to their size and
> >resistance.
> >
> >So I have shifted to tying only patterns on #1-3/0, and weighting the fly
if
> >necessary to get the size and sink rate I want. You ought to see the wire
> >size on a Tiemco 7999 3/0. I have also been paring down my marabous so
they
> >sink faster with less hackle.
> >
> >I have only been able to fish them for a short time on the Tolt last
weekend,
> >but they sunk like rocks with thin marabou hackles, and tinsel bodies. It
was
> >quite amazing to see. Heck and that was with no prewetting of the
marabou.
> >
> >Rob
> >
> >--
> >Rob Blomquist
> >Kirkland, WA
> >
> >
>
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