Bill,

Thank you for your kind words, I'm just glad you were able to make out what I was 
trying to saying through my grammatical errors :) I should spend as much time typing 
as I do tying :)

Tim <><

>-----Original Message-----
>From: "bhtrading" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 20:33:45 -0800
>To:  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Weighted flies
>
>Yeah I've seen your flies too Mr Coleman-unfortuntately they are always
>gorgeous & catch fish.  Nice to hear from you.  bill hamilton
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Tim Coleman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 6:16 PM
>Subject: Re: Weighted flies
>
>
>> One of the things I done to help me my marabou patterns sink, without
>having to resort to added weight, is to remove the stems before tying the
>marabou on.  I put the feather in a loop and spin it on, it gives it a full
>effect without a lot of bulk.  I'll then add a collar feather to improve the
>silhouette.  Additionally, I use a heavy wire hook and as small of a tippet
>as I can get away with.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Tim <><
>>
>> On Fri, 4 Jan 2002 18:52:48 -0800 Rob Blomquist
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >On Friday 04 January 2002 04:38 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke:
>> >> Have you folks ever checked out the "extra" depth you get with a
>weighed
>> >>fly in a wet fly swing?
>> >
>> >Well, there are several things that come into play in a fly that is
>sinking.
>> >
>> >First off, its weight. But I guess that's a little bonehead for this
>gang,
>> >Then, there is the total resistance to sinking which is everything added
>to
>> >the hook. The best sinking fly will be a bare hook of the heaviest metal
>that
>> >you care to tie with. Anything that adds to that bare hook slows it down.
>Big
>> >marabous, big bunny leaches, big patterns of cactus chenille, or anything
>> >like these are tougher to sink if only for what they are made of.
>> >
>> >I was chatting with my local fly shop purveyor about my fishing methods
>and
>> >lack of sucess, and he suggested that I work on tying heavier flies by
>using
>> >heavier, bigger hooks. As my type 4 sink tip and my 4 foot leader are
>right,
>> >but my flies are probably rising up off the bottom due to their size and
>> >resistance.
>> >
>> >So I have shifted to tying only patterns on #1-3/0, and weighting the fly
>if
>> >necessary to get the size and sink rate I want. You ought to see the wire
>> >size on a Tiemco 7999 3/0. I have also been paring down my marabous so
>they
>> >sink faster with less hackle.
>> >
>> >I have only been able to fish them for a short time on the Tolt last
>weekend,
>> >but they sunk like rocks with thin marabou hackles, and tinsel bodies. It
>was
>> >quite amazing to see. Heck and that was with no prewetting of the
>marabou.
>> >
>> >Rob
>> >
>> >--
>> >Rob Blomquist
>> >Kirkland, WA
>> >
>> >
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