Sheesh Sean, compared with your arsenal of knots, it looks like I 
might flunk my knots merit badge ;-)

I regularly use only two terminal knots: an improved clinch to attach 
flies to tippet and perfection loops to attach tippet to leader and 
leader to butt section. I use a turl and a Duncan loop only very 
occasionally. I use the same formula as you do for the number of 
turns on the clinch knot.

I use blood knots in tying leaders, nail knots to attach butt section 
and backing to my fly line and a spool knot (I think that's what it's 
called) to attach the backing to my reel.

So did you catch any very large fish on that local lake?

Kent Lufkin

>I was out on a local lake today, and was thinking about knots.  I was
>tying on a fly with the expectation of getting into some VERY large fish
>with light tippet, so the idea of good, high-percentage knots just
>naturally came to mind.
>
>My question in many-fold:  Just how many knots does a good
>flyfisherperson really need to know?  I regularly use improved clinch,
>duncan loop, orvis, blood, surgeons, and less often a nail knot.  That's
>just six knots that cover almost ALL of my fishing endeavors.  On those
>terminal knots we use most often (Improved Clinch, Duncan Loop, Orvis
>Perfect) how many wraps do you fellow fisherpersons use?  Does it change
>with tippet size?  FWIW, I tend to go tippet size plus 1 on the Improved
>Clinch and Orvis Perfect (5x would be 6 wraps, 4x would be 5 wraps,
>etc., etc.  and never less than 3 and never more than 6 wraps) while my
>Duncan loops are 4-5 depending on leader thickness (4 wraps on steelhead
>tippets, and 5 on trout).  Surgeons are ALWAYS 3, though I've heard of
>folks going to 4 wraps.
>
>Hoping for a spirited thread (pun intended!) on this one, as this might
>be of some use to the newer members who can benefit from the wealth of
>knowledge of our more seasoned vets.
>
>Sean

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