This is a great thread. What is especially interesting is how many knots
have names that I am not familiar with but look just like other knots I
have seen or used. 

I used to spend a lot of the non-fishing time researching knots and
practicing them, but usually in the field I use the double turle for
drys and small flies and the improved clinch for nymphs and larger
flies. I use the SA reference book I got once with some line to do the
rare nail knot and attach the backing to the spool or to the line;
usually at the bench, seldom in the field. I use the perfection loops
for the leader butt to a little piece of mono with a perfection loop
tied to the bitter end of the fly line. I have thought of using the
loops for leader end to tippet, but the time I tried it I could not get
the cast to behave properly. Maybe it was just that day, because it
would be a lot easier than the blood knots. 

As I am getting older, I am also perfecting the granny and Gordian.
Especially in the failing light of day (not much early light of dawn any
more). I thought it may have been something else when I tied it, but
when I look at it later in the light, its something else.

Tight lines,

Steve

> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Sean Grier
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:50 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Knots
> 
> 
> I was out on a local lake today, and was thinking about 
> knots.  I was tying on a fly with the expectation of getting 
> into some VERY large fish with light tippet, so the idea of 
> good, high-percentage knots just naturally came to mind.
> 
> My question in many-fold:  Just how many knots does a good 
> flyfisherperson really need to know?  I regularly use 
> improved clinch, duncan loop, orvis, blood, surgeons, and 
> less often a nail knot.  That's just six knots that cover 
> almost ALL of my fishing endeavors.  On those terminal knots 
> we use most often (Improved Clinch, Duncan Loop, Orvis
> Perfect) how many wraps do you fellow fisherpersons use?  
> Does it change with tippet size?  FWIW, I tend to go tippet 
> size plus 1 on the Improved Clinch and Orvis Perfect (5x 
> would be 6 wraps, 4x would be 5 wraps, etc., etc.  and never 
> less than 3 and never more than 6 wraps) while my Duncan 
> loops are 4-5 depending on leader thickness (4 wraps on 
> steelhead tippets, and 5 on trout).  Surgeons are ALWAYS 3, 
> though I've heard of folks going to 4 wraps.
> 
> Hoping for a spirited thread (pun intended!) on this one, as 
> this might be of some use to the newer members who can 
> benefit from the wealth of knowledge of our more seasoned vets.
> 
> Sean
> 
> 

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