Seems like enough to me! BTW, when in NZ several years ago, a guide taught me a quick and easy tippet-to-fly knot to tie for small tippet applications (we were using 7x on 5-8lb browns - water was very clear and the trout were VERY spooky). He called it the Dave's knot, though it's origin was rather murky. Basically, it's like a clinch knot, but after you slip the tippet through the eye of the fly, you tie a granny/overhand knot to the end of the tippet, then wrap the tag end around the standing end 2 times (he was very adamant about that - 2 times), then slip the tag end through the loop you've created (like a clinch knot) pulling the tag end far enough to bring the overhand knot through it. Then as you tighten the knot down, you let the tag end slip back so that that overhand knot is pulled up against the clinch. The overhand knot becomes the thing that keeps the knot from slipping loose. VERY simple, VERY quick, and I never lost a fish because of the knot - the tippet always broke above the knot. The guide said you can tow a water skier with that knot (an exaggeration I'm sure - but then, guides are prone to that....) And we caught a bunch of hogs on very light tippet with that knot. It's great on little flies (18 and smaller), 'cause it has a very low profile.
Sean rderedfield wrote: > So, does that mean if you use 0X, you use 1 wrap? <grin> > > Richard > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sean Grier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:49 PM > Subject: Knots > > > I was out on a local lake today, and was thinking about knots. I was > > tying on a fly with the expectation of getting into some VERY large fish > > with light tippet, so the idea of good, high-percentage knots just > > naturally came to mind. > > > > My question in many-fold: Just how many knots does a good > > flyfisherperson really need to know? I regularly use improved clinch, > > duncan loop, orvis, blood, surgeons, and less often a nail knot. That's > > just six knots that cover almost ALL of my fishing endeavors. On those > > terminal knots we use most often (Improved Clinch, Duncan Loop, Orvis > > Perfect) how many wraps do you fellow fisherpersons use? Does it change > > with tippet size? FWIW, I tend to go tippet size plus 1 on the Improved > > Clinch and Orvis Perfect (5x would be 6 wraps, 4x would be 5 wraps, > > etc., etc. and never less than 3 and never more than 6 wraps) while my > > Duncan loops are 4-5 depending on leader thickness (4 wraps on steelhead > > tippets, and 5 on trout). Surgeons are ALWAYS 3, though I've heard of > > folks going to 4 wraps. > > > > Hoping for a spirited thread (pun intended!) on this one, as this might > > be of some use to the newer members who can benefit from the wealth of > > knowledge of our more seasoned vets. > > > > Sean > > > >

