What! Learn another knot! I'm full up! Seriously, I've heard the name, but never checked out the King Sling. If it's really simple, I'll use it! Over the years I've learned lots of fancy knots, but if they aren't easy to tie I don't use them. That's why I use the bimini over the australian plait. Easier and faster to tie. And frankly, I only use the bimini if I pretie them at home or at the lodge. If I'm on the water and spot an unexpected fish I need a shock tippet for, I'll just either tie it directly to my class tippet with a surgeon's, or if I need a shock heavier than 27 lbs., I'll just tie a surgeon's loop in the class tippet and tie that to the shock with a huffnagel. It's never failed on me, and if you think about the purpose the loop serves in a huffnagel, there's no reason it ever should. I still don't necessarily buy the story that the bimini adds any appreciable shock absorbing factor into your system... Like I said, I like simple knots!
Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Santangelo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 9:08 AM Subject: RE: Knots > A good knot to learn for providing loop to loop connections from the leader > to tippet is the King Sling. > http://www.algonet.se/~sjostran/English/10067.htm > > When tied correctly this knot proves out to 100% per research that I read. > When tied incorrectly it is weak. When possible I apply UV Knot Sense to > the knots. When used in conjunction with each other, either the tippet or > the knot to the fly will fail first. > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Karen Crandall & > Phil Marie-Rose > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 6:48 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Knots > > > > In order used > Other than rofoundation knots like arbor knot, nail knot, albright I use > > Fly to tippet: Non-Slip Mono Loop (95 percent of the time), Duncan/Uni-knot > (when fishing is hot and not enough tippet left for non-slip loop), Palomar > (tube fly) and Homer Rhode and haywire twist (wire), figure eight (wire)(Big > time saltwater with 80 to 100 lb shock tippet, tragically only once or twice > a year). > > Loop: Perfection (99 percent of the time) or surgeons loop, Bimini Twist > ( for backing loops, Gel-Spun backing, Big time saltwater leaders for tuna > and sails, and as a party trick) > > leader construction: Surgeons knot (95 percent of the time 2 to 5 turn > depending sizes and material(mono to fluoro, etc), simple blood knot (when I > fish a dropper... very seldom, usually go fly bend to fly eye), Huffnagel or > "hasselhoff" as one of my shop bosses used to call it, for big time > saltwater. > > Only knots I vary number of turns on is the bimini twist (never less than > 22, never more than 50), Non slip Mono loop (7,5, or 3 depending on tippet > size and surgeons knot (see above) > > I could cover pretty much every situation I face effectively with just TWO > high strength knots: the surgeons knot for leader construction and loops, > Duncan/Uni knot (for fly attachement and in place of arbor and albright)... > Except for wire situations. > > Works for me! > > Phil > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sean Grier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:49 PM > Subject: Knots > > > > I was out on a local lake today, and was thinking about knots. I was > > tying on a fly with the expectation of getting into some VERY large fish > > with light tippet, so the idea of good, high-percentage knots just > > naturally came to mind. > > > > My question in many-fold: Just how many knots does a good > > flyfisherperson really need to know? I regularly use improved clinch, > > duncan loop, orvis, blood, surgeons, and less often a nail knot. That's > > just six knots that cover almost ALL of my fishing endeavors. On those > > terminal knots we use most often (Improved Clinch, Duncan Loop, Orvis > > Perfect) how many wraps do you fellow fisherpersons use? Does it change > > with tippet size? FWIW, I tend to go tippet size plus 1 on the Improved > > Clinch and Orvis Perfect (5x would be 6 wraps, 4x would be 5 wraps, > > etc., etc. and never less than 3 and never more than 6 wraps) while my > > Duncan loops are 4-5 depending on leader thickness (4 wraps on steelhead > > tippets, and 5 on trout). Surgeons are ALWAYS 3, though I've heard of > > folks going to 4 wraps. > > > > Hoping for a spirited thread (pun intended!) on this one, as this might > > be of some use to the newer members who can benefit from the wealth of > > knowledge of our more seasoned vets. > > > > Sean > > > > >
