I use: improved clinch - fly to tippet surgeons - tippet to leader single-fishermans - leader to loop perfection - loop on fly line nail - fly line to backing arbor - backing to reel
-tight lines- Jim -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sean Grier Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Knots I was out on a local lake today, and was thinking about knots. I was tying on a fly with the expectation of getting into some VERY large fish with light tippet, so the idea of good, high-percentage knots just naturally came to mind. My question in many-fold: Just how many knots does a good flyfisherperson really need to know? I regularly use improved clinch, duncan loop, orvis, blood, surgeons, and less often a nail knot. That's just six knots that cover almost ALL of my fishing endeavors. On those terminal knots we use most often (Improved Clinch, Duncan Loop, Orvis Perfect) how many wraps do you fellow fisherpersons use? Does it change with tippet size? FWIW, I tend to go tippet size plus 1 on the Improved Clinch and Orvis Perfect (5x would be 6 wraps, 4x would be 5 wraps, etc., etc. and never less than 3 and never more than 6 wraps) while my Duncan loops are 4-5 depending on leader thickness (4 wraps on steelhead tippets, and 5 on trout). Surgeons are ALWAYS 3, though I've heard of folks going to 4 wraps. Hoping for a spirited thread (pun intended!) on this one, as this might be of some use to the newer members who can benefit from the wealth of knowledge of our more seasoned vets. Sean

