And, don't forget about the dreaded, but venerable, wind knot (or 'bad
casting' knot, as Lefty calls it)!


----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Neuendorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 10:18 AM
Subject: RE: Knots


> This is a great thread. What is especially interesting is how many knots
> have names that I am not familiar with but look just like other knots I
> have seen or used.
>
> I used to spend a lot of the non-fishing time researching knots and
> practicing them, but usually in the field I use the double turle for
> drys and small flies and the improved clinch for nymphs and larger
> flies. I use the SA reference book I got once with some line to do the
> rare nail knot and attach the backing to the spool or to the line;
> usually at the bench, seldom in the field. I use the perfection loops
> for the leader butt to a little piece of mono with a perfection loop
> tied to the bitter end of the fly line. I have thought of using the
> loops for leader end to tippet, but the time I tried it I could not get
> the cast to behave properly. Maybe it was just that day, because it
> would be a lot easier than the blood knots.
>
> As I am getting older, I am also perfecting the granny and Gordian.
> Especially in the failing light of day (not much early light of dawn any
> more). I thought it may have been something else when I tied it, but
> when I look at it later in the light, its something else.
>
> Tight lines,
>
> Steve
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Sean Grier
> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:50 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Knots
> >
> >
> > I was out on a local lake today, and was thinking about
> > knots.  I was tying on a fly with the expectation of getting
> > into some VERY large fish with light tippet, so the idea of
> > good, high-percentage knots just naturally came to mind.
> >
> > My question in many-fold:  Just how many knots does a good
> > flyfisherperson really need to know?  I regularly use
> > improved clinch, duncan loop, orvis, blood, surgeons, and
> > less often a nail knot.  That's just six knots that cover
> > almost ALL of my fishing endeavors.  On those terminal knots
> > we use most often (Improved Clinch, Duncan Loop, Orvis
> > Perfect) how many wraps do you fellow fisherpersons use?
> > Does it change with tippet size?  FWIW, I tend to go tippet
> > size plus 1 on the Improved Clinch and Orvis Perfect (5x
> > would be 6 wraps, 4x would be 5 wraps, etc., etc.  and never
> > less than 3 and never more than 6 wraps) while my Duncan
> > loops are 4-5 depending on leader thickness (4 wraps on
> > steelhead tippets, and 5 on trout).  Surgeons are ALWAYS 3,
> > though I've heard of folks going to 4 wraps.
> >
> > Hoping for a spirited thread (pun intended!) on this one, as
> > this might be of some use to the newer members who can
> > benefit from the wealth of knowledge of our more seasoned vets.
> >
> > Sean
> >
> >
>
>

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