Hello Ronni and others interested in this thorny subject

I am interested in Google+ because I am researching these kinds of sites for 
some club websites I manage.  In particular, I am being pressured to give links 
to Facebook and Twitter accounts.  I have done so on one of the sites.

Thank you for drawing our attention to that section in the Terms of Service.  I 
can read.  So I can see what it says.  Yuk.

David

On 11/07/2011, at 10:29 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

> 
> Hello Paul,
> 
> If you are having a ‘jab’ at me for asking WAMUG members to check before they 
> sign-up for Google+ , I’m very disappointed.
> 
> Look at the times members have downloaded and installed something without 
> finding out all the details first, and then we (the members who give support 
> on WAMUG) try to sort out for them.
> 
> That is why we try to inform members to “read the fine print”, do some 
> research before ‘jumping in feet first’ (for lack of a better term).
> I’m not ‘inciting fear’ into people, I’m just trying to get them to be aware 
> of what they are signing up for or installing, so they don’t make an ‘error 
> of judgement’ and then have to pay the consequences.
> 
> All I’m trying to do is alert WAMUG Members to “Read the Fine Print BEFORE 
> You Sign Up”.
> 
> Paul, have you read the "Google Terms of Service”?
> I have!   
> This section in particular:
> 
> /Begin Quote:
> 
> “By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a 
> perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to 
> reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly 
> display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or 
> through, the Services.”
> 
> “You agree that this license includes a right for Google to make such Content 
> available to other companies, organizations or individuals with whom Google 
> has relationships for the provision of syndicated services, and to use such 
> Content in connection with the provision of those services.”
> 
> “You understand that Google, in performing the required technical steps to 
> provide the Services to our users, may (a) transmit or distribute your 
> Content over various public networks and in various media; and (b) make such 
> changes to your Content as are necessary to conform and adapt that Content to 
> the technical requirements of connecting networks, devices, services or 
> media. You agree that this license shall permit Google to take these actions.”
> 
> /End Quote:
> 
> <http://www.google.com/accounts/TOS>
> 
> Regards,
> Ronni
> 
> 
> On 11/07/2011, at 8:01 AM, Paul K wrote:
> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> Yes, scepticism is a healthy thing. 
>> 
>> Fear however clouds our judgement.
>> 
>> Many sites out there, not just social networking ones, require information 
>> from their members to function meaningfully.
>> So if Google+ requires information as a cost to the user it must offer a 
>> benefit as a reward.
>> It is up to the individual user to assess if the deal is a good one for them.
>> I am still yet to see any "risk" in this and I fear there is unfounded fears 
>> being whipped up here. I am not saying 'join Google+'. I am saying be 
>> realistic. You take a bigger risk eating chicken from a bayne marie but you 
>> do it, no?
>> Sure FB has had some bad things happen, but do you hear Today Tonight 
>> shouting about the benefits from their rooftop? Or Ronni for that matter?
>> 
>> You need to remember that no social situation is without risk; 'don't 
>> mention war or politics at the dinner table'. The risk is that you will show 
>> your opinion leaving you open to opposing views. Big woop. If you don't like 
>> that kind of heat why would you consciously ask to be allowed in the 
>> kitchen? A: for the benefits of an open conversation with other people.
>> You weigh the "risk(?)" and make the choice.
>> 
>> Sorry but I'm a bit hung up on that word "risk". To me it comes across as 
>> hyperbole.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Paul
> 
> 
> 
> 
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