Hi all

invites still available Google plus if you are interested please follow the
instructions below and I will send your invite out later today


Invites are currently open again for Google+ if you would like one please
> e-mail me your Gmail address to <[email protected]> sorry no Google Apps
> customers with your full name and e-mail address.


> You may not be able to get in straight away but registrations have been
> opened the last two days between 1 and 5 AM, You are also welcome to respond
> to this e-mail on list if you would prefer.


--
Regards Kyle
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kyle Kreusch: This E-Mail Was Dictated Using One OF Nuance
Communications, Dictate Products
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
*User Next*, *Apple and Macintosh User Group*: Website<http://usernext.org/>|
Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/UserNext> |
Twitter<http://twitter.com/UserNext>
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------



On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Glenn Nicholas <[email protected]> wrote:

> Google gets a perpetual, irrevocable licence to your content on Google+.
>
> Facebook also gets rights to content you upload to Facebook ...
> "For content that is covered by intellectual property rights, like photos
> and videos ("IP content"), you specifically give us the following
> permission, subject to yourprivacy <http://www.facebook.com/privacy/> and 
> application
> settings <http://www.facebook.com/editapps.php>: you grant us a
> non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, worldwide license
> to use any IP content that you post on or in connection with Facebook ("IP
> License"). "
>
> You can kind-of take back what you have given to Facebook ...but there is a
> catch:
> "This IP License ends when you delete your IP content or your account
> unless your content has been shared with others, and they have not deleted
> it."
>
> Seems social media is a bit like Hotel Calfornia: you can check out
> anytime, but you might not really leave.
>
> Glenn Nicholas
>
>
>
>
>
> On 11 July 2011 10:29, Ronda Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello Paul,
>>
>> If you are having a ‘jab’ at me for asking WAMUG members to check before
>> they sign-up for Google+ , I’m very disappointed.
>>
>> Look at the times members have downloaded and installed something without
>> finding out all the details first, and then we (the members who give support
>> on WAMUG) try to sort out for them.
>>
>> That is why we try to inform members to “read the fine print”, do some
>> research before ‘jumping in feet first’ (for lack of a better term).
>> I’m not ‘inciting fear’ into people, I’m just trying to get them to be
>> aware of what they are signing up for or installing, so they don’t make an
>> ‘error of judgement’ and then have to pay the consequences.
>>
>> All I’m trying to do is alert WAMUG Members to “Read the Fine Print BEFORE
>> You Sign Up”.
>>
>> Paul, have you read the "Google Terms of Service”?
>> I have!
>> This section in particular:
>>
>> /Begin Quote:
>>
>> “By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a
>> perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license
>> to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly
>> display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or
>> through, the Services.”
>>
>> “You agree that this license includes a right for Google to make such
>> Content available to other companies, organizations or individuals with whom
>> Google has relationships for the provision of syndicated services, and to
>> use such Content in connection with the provision of those services.”
>>
>> “You understand that Google, in performing the required technical steps to
>> provide the Services to our users, may (a) transmit or distribute your
>> Content over various public networks and in various media; and (b) make such
>> changes to your Content as are necessary to conform and adapt that Content
>> to the technical requirements of connecting networks, devices, services or
>> media. You agree that this license shall permit Google to take these
>> actions.”
>>
>> /End Quote:
>>
>> <http://www.google.com/accounts/TOS>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ronni
>>
>>
>> On 11/07/2011, at 8:01 AM, Paul K wrote:
>>
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > Yes, scepticism is a healthy thing.
>> >
>> > Fear however clouds our judgement.
>> >
>> > Many sites out there, not just social networking ones, require
>> information from their members to function meaningfully.
>> > So if Google+ requires information as a cost to the user it must offer a
>> benefit as a reward.
>> > It is up to the individual user to assess if the deal is a good one for
>> them.
>> > I am still yet to see any "risk" in this and I fear there is unfounded
>> fears being whipped up here. I am not saying 'join Google+'. I am saying be
>> realistic. You take a bigger risk eating chicken from a bayne marie but you
>> do it, no?
>> > Sure FB has had some bad things happen, but do you hear Today Tonight
>> shouting about the benefits from their rooftop? Or Ronni for that matter?
>> >
>> > You need to remember that no social situation is without risk; 'don't
>> mention war or politics at the dinner table'. The risk is that you will show
>> your opinion leaving you open to opposing views. Big woop. If you don't like
>> that kind of heat why would you consciously ask to be allowed in the
>> kitchen? A: for the benefits of an open conversation with other people.
>> > You weigh the "risk(?)" and make the choice.
>> >
>> > Sorry but I'm a bit hung up on that word "risk". To me it comes across
>> as hyperbole.
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> > Paul
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --
>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml>
>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml>
>> Unsubscribe - <mailto:[email protected]>
>>
>>
>



-- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --
Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml>
Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml>
Unsubscribe - <mailto:[email protected]>