Hi Tim

You can't really make a judgement on if the fee is small or not, it might be 
small for you but for others it may not be!  

I haven't decided if to join or not as of yet as I also have other needs for 
what money I have and it has to be balanced out.

Regards

Roger


On 28/06/2012, at 7:15 AM, Tim Law wrote:

> Since I bought my first Mac in 1989, I've attended one WAMUG meeting.
> 
> But I've learned heaps from receiving the list emails, and been able to ask a 
> question or two over the years. For me WAMUG IS the email list.
> 
> I agree with Carlo, and the minimal cost is completely reasonable to receive 
> reliable accurate info and feedback. This is unlike other non computer forums 
> that I participate in where users are all amateurs and their contributions 
> are only as accurate as their experiences.
> 
> I urge caution for the committee providing free access based on requests from 
> members. If it is based on the applicants ability to add value to the list, 
> then that is one matter, but to make assessment on income is likely to get 
> bogged down in value judgements, comparisons between applicants and other 
> messy things, all for such a small amount of money.
> 
> I think it's a shame that people are seeing this small fee as a reason to 
> exit the list. We live in a user pays world, I support the committees 
> decision.
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On 27/06/2012, at 23:06, cm <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Peter and Eugene and other list members,
>> 
>> We list followers are really grateful for your contributions over the years 
>> and we contributors are honoured to have been able to help you out on other 
>> occasions. I just wanted to let you know that there is no need at all to end 
>> your connection with WAMUG. You will still be able to read any and all posts 
>> to the list, and you will still continue to receive WAMUG emails to your 
>> inbox unless you choose to stop them. Also if you ever happen to be passing 
>> through Perth, meetings are open to all and we would love to see you there.
>> 
>> The decision to allow posting to only members was not made lightly. Running 
>> the list has a very real cost, both financial and in the time of 
>> contributors, fairness dictates that those who pay the membership fee are 
>> entitled to use the service above other persons who join, post a random 
>> question or put up for sale a piece of equipment, and then disappear. Sadly 
>> neither of you, Peter and Eugene, are anywhere near to this category of user 
>> so I have two solutions to suggest. Firstly remember that the WAMUG 
>> membership fee is less than a reasonable call-out charge for most Mac 
>> consultants. So if at some future time you need a consultant, consider 
>> joining our list and with luck we will all pitch in, fix the problem, and 
>> you will come out financially ahead. The second solution I would like to 
>> offer is that at the next committee meeting we will discuss some bursaries 
>> for members who really cannot afford to pay the membership fee. This would 
>> be entirely confidential between the pros
 p
> ec
>> tive member and WAMUG. If the committee is in agreement you will see a mail 
>> out on this subject after the next committee meeting on July 17 and our 
>> website will be updated to reflect this.
>> 
>> So I really hope this is arrivederci rather than adieu, and if not we are 
>> grateful for your contribution to WAMUG.
>> 
>> All the best,
>> Carlo
>> 
>> On 27/06/2012, at 21:34 , Reg Whitely wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear Eugene
>>> 
>>> I have never met you but you have helped me, and so many others others, in 
>>> so many ways on the WAMUG mailing list.
>>> 
>>> As I have said to Peter, I have appreciated all responses to my queries 
>>> from you, and from others on this mailing list, for many years, and want 
>>> this to continue.
>>> 
>>> Please do not discard the WAMUG Ship yet.
>>> 
>>> Reg
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Reg Whitely
>>> 
>>> Home: 08 9921 7272
>>> Mob: 04 8899 7313
>>> Email: [email protected]
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 27/06/2012, at 7:54 pm, Eugene de Gouw wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Like Peter I too must send my final farewells as this will likely be the 
>>>> last time I am able to write to the list.
>>>> 
>>>> I have been associated with WAMUG virtually since its inception, attending 
>>>> meetings  at Curtin University in the early years. Family and work 
>>>> commitments impacted and eventually curtailed my physical presence at 
>>>> these meetings but with the advent of the internet and the WAMUG mailing 
>>>> list I was able to maintain contact.
>>>> 
>>>> From time to time I contributed to solutions, aiding in problem solving 
>>>> and at other times was quite delighted at the quick and accurate response 
>>>> from others when I encountered problems myself.
>>>> 
>>>> I thank this community of Macintosh fanatics as I have enjoyed the 
>>>> friendly dialogue.
>>>> 
>>>> I wish you all the best as you move into the next phase of WAMUG.
>>>> 
>>>>                   Regards,
>>>>                   Eugene
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 27/06/2012, at 7:00 PM, Peter Sealy wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I would like to say adieu to you good folks as 30 Jun is just about here.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have not contributed a great deal to this group partly because by the 
>>>>> time I have got around to reading any email which I could have answered 
>>>>> someone else has answered the question, most often of course the 
>>>>> indefatigable and amazing Ronni. That in no way dimishes the effort put 
>>>>> in by many others to contribute to the group.       
>>>>> 
>>>>> The other reason for the paucity of my contribution is that I see myself 
>>>>> as a minnow in the Mac geekdom.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As an Age pensioner I have to ration my memberships to social 
>>>>> organisations and while the membership fee may be 'only' a small amount 
>>>>> to you still working, I need to be careful.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am the List Admin and Moderator of the ACT Apple Help Email List which 
>>>>> keeps me busy in observing the Mac webosphere. And as a paid up member of 
>>>>> this august group, that cuts out my 'hobby' fees. I lived in Canberra for 
>>>>> many years but now live in Albury.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We do not require paid membership of our MUG to join our email Help List. 
>>>>> Merely being a Mac enthusiast is sufficient. That said we don't have many 
>>>>> non-Group members in the List and if any of you sought to send your 
>>>>> electrons eastward we would make you welcome. The warning is that our 
>>>>> List is nowhere as active or cerebral as yours. Athough we do publish a 
>>>>> monthly Newsletter (for financial members).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best wishes, see you in the Mac cloud. Thank you for the camaraderie.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Peter Sealy
>>>>> Thurgoona AUSTRALIA
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