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On 28/06/2012, at 9:52 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: >> For the rest of us there is always apple.stackechange.com . > > What has that site got to do with Apple or support? > > Sent from Ronni's iPad > > On 28/06/2012, at 9:12 AM, Michael Bramwell <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I'm pretty new to the list and was surprised to see these new rules applied >> to an email list. I'm on a few and charging for the right to post is >> something I have never come across before and seems a little odd. My initial >> thoughts were that its a good way to put a big dent in the active community >> that is here. Having said that it sounds like a lot of thought was put in to >> the decision so all the best with that, I'm happy to lurk. >> >> For the rest of us there is always apple.stackechange.com . >> >> Mike. >> >> On 28/06/2012, at 8:20 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: >> >>> I agree Tim. >>> >>> I also have only been to one WAMUG meeting, but I have been a financial >>> member of WAMUG for years. The financial members of WAMUG have made it >>> possible for WAMUG and the mailing list to continue. >>> Without the financial members there would not be WAMUG or the mailing list! >>> >>> I also know that times are tough and trying to make our money go around is >>> difficult. But that is for the individual person to decide; if they don't >>> use the mailing list to ask for support and feel they cannot afford the >>> $30, that is their choice to make. >>> >>> The level of support and information that is given on our mailing list for >>> an annual fee of $30 is more than reasonable. A consultant will charge that >>> for one email support issue. >>> >>> I am disappointed in some members attitudes that they expect the support, >>> but expect others to pay to keep that support possible. >>> >>> The committee has taken a long hard time to make this decision and I >>> applaud their decision. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Ronni >>> Sent from Ronni's iPad >>> >>> On 28/06/2012, at 7:15 AM, Tim Law <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Since I bought my first Mac in 1989, I've attended one WAMUG meeting. >>>> >>>> But I've learned heaps from receiving the list emails, and been able to >>>> ask a question or two over the years. For me WAMUG IS the email list. >>>> >>>> I agree with Carlo, and the minimal cost is completely reasonable to >>>> receive reliable accurate info and feedback. This is unlike other non >>>> computer forums that I participate in where users are all amateurs and >>>> their contributions are only as accurate as their experiences. >>>> >>>> I urge caution for the committee providing free access based on requests >>>> from members. If it is based on the applicants ability to add value to the >>>> list, then that is one matter, but to make assessment on income is likely >>>> to get bogged down in value judgements, comparisons between applicants and >>>> other messy things, all for such a small amount of money. >>>> >>>> I think it's a shame that people are seeing this small fee as a reason to >>>> exit the list. We live in a user pays world, I support the committees >>>> decision. >>>> >>>> Tim >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> On 27/06/2012, at 23:06, cm <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Peter and Eugene and other list members, >>>>> >>>>> We list followers are really grateful for your contributions over the >>>>> years and we contributors are honoured to have been able to help you out >>>>> on other occasions. I just wanted to let you know that there is no need >>>>> at all to end your connection with WAMUG. You will still be able to read >>>>> any and all posts to the list, and you will still continue to receive >>>>> WAMUG emails to your inbox unless you choose to stop them. Also if you >>>>> ever happen to be passing through Perth, meetings are open to all and we >>>>> would love to see you there. >>>>> >>>>> The decision to allow posting to only members was not made lightly. >>>>> Running the list has a very real cost, both financial and in the time of >>>>> contributors, fairness dictates that those who pay the membership fee are >>>>> entitled to use the service above other persons who join, post a random >>>>> question or put up for sale a piece of equipment, and then disappear. >>>>> Sadly neither of you, Peter and Eugene, are anywhere near to this >>>>> category of user so I have two solutions to suggest. Firstly remember >>>>> that the WAMUG membership fee is less than a reasonable call-out charge >>>>> for most Mac consultants. So if at some future time you need a >>>>> consultant, consider joining our list and with luck we will all pitch in, >>>>> fix the problem, and you will come out financially ahead. The second >>>>> solution I would like to offer is that at the next committee meeting we >>>>> will discuss some bursaries for members who really cannot afford to pay >>>>> the membership fee. This would be entirely confidential between the p r > o >> s >>> p >>>> ec >>>>> tive member and WAMUG. If the committee is in agreement you will see a >>>>> mail out on this subject after the next committee meeting on July 17 and >>>>> our website will be updated to reflect this. >>>>> >>>>> So I really hope this is arrivederci rather than adieu, and if not we are >>>>> grateful for your contribution to WAMUG. >>>>> >>>>> All the best, >>>>> Carlo >>>>> >>>>> On 27/06/2012, at 21:34 , Reg Whitely wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Eugene >>>>>> >>>>>> I have never met you but you have helped me, and so many others others, >>>>>> in so many ways on the WAMUG mailing list. >>>>>> >>>>>> As I have said to Peter, I have appreciated all responses to my queries >>>>>> from you, and from others on this mailing list, for many years, and want >>>>>> this to continue. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please do not discard the WAMUG Ship yet. >>>>>> >>>>>> Reg >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Reg Whitely >>>>>> >>>>>> Home: 08 9921 7272 >>>>>> Mob: 04 8899 7313 >>>>>> Email: [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 27/06/2012, at 7:54 pm, Eugene de Gouw wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Like Peter I too must send my final farewells as this will likely be >>>>>>> the last time I am able to write to the list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have been associated with WAMUG virtually since its inception, >>>>>>> attending meetings at Curtin University in the early years. Family and >>>>>>> work commitments impacted and eventually curtailed my physical presence >>>>>>> at these meetings but with the advent of the internet and the WAMUG >>>>>>> mailing list I was able to maintain contact. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From time to time I contributed to solutions, aiding in problem solving >>>>>>> and at other times was quite delighted at the quick and accurate >>>>>>> response from others when I encountered problems myself. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I thank this community of Macintosh fanatics as I have enjoyed the >>>>>>> friendly dialogue. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I wish you all the best as you move into the next phase of WAMUG. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Eugene >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 27/06/2012, at 7:00 PM, Peter Sealy wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would like to say adieu to you good folks as 30 Jun is just about >>>>>>>> here. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have not contributed a great deal to this group partly because by >>>>>>>> the time I have got around to reading any email which I could have >>>>>>>> answered someone else has answered the question, most often of course >>>>>>>> the indefatigable and amazing Ronni. That in no way dimishes the >>>>>>>> effort put in by many others to contribute to the group. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The other reason for the paucity of my contribution is that I see >>>>>>>> myself as a minnow in the Mac geekdom. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As an Age pensioner I have to ration my memberships to social >>>>>>>> organisations and while the membership fee may be 'only' a small >>>>>>>> amount to you still working, I need to be careful. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am the List Admin and Moderator of the ACT Apple Help Email List >>>>>>>> which keeps me busy in observing the Mac webosphere. And as a paid up >>>>>>>> member of this august group, that cuts out my 'hobby' fees. I lived in >>>>>>>> Canberra for many years but now live in Albury. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We do not require paid membership of our MUG to join our email Help >>>>>>>> List. Merely being a Mac enthusiast is sufficient. That said we don't >>>>>>>> have many non-Group members in the List and if any of you sought to >>>>>>>> send your electrons eastward we would make you welcome. The warning is >>>>>>>> that our List is nowhere as active or cerebral as yours. Athough we do >>>>>>>> publish a monthly Newsletter (for financial members). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best wishes, see you in the Mac cloud. Thank you for the camaraderie. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Peter Sealy >>>>>>>> Thurgoona AUSTRALIA >>>>>>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>>>>>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>>>>>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>>>>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>>>>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>>>>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>>>>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>>>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>>>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>>>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>>>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >>>>> >>>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >> >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >> Settings & Unsubscribe - >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
