> For the rest of us there is always apple.stackechange.com . What has that site got to do with Apple or support?
Sent from Ronni's iPad On 28/06/2012, at 9:12 AM, Michael Bramwell <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm pretty new to the list and was surprised to see these new rules applied > to an email list. I'm on a few and charging for the right to post is > something I have never come across before and seems a little odd. My initial > thoughts were that its a good way to put a big dent in the active community > that is here. Having said that it sounds like a lot of thought was put in to > the decision so all the best with that, I'm happy to lurk. > > For the rest of us there is always apple.stackechange.com . > > Mike. > > On 28/06/2012, at 8:20 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: > >> I agree Tim. >> >> I also have only been to one WAMUG meeting, but I have been a financial >> member of WAMUG for years. The financial members of WAMUG have made it >> possible for WAMUG and the mailing list to continue. >> Without the financial members there would not be WAMUG or the mailing list! >> >> I also know that times are tough and trying to make our money go around is >> difficult. But that is for the individual person to decide; if they don't >> use the mailing list to ask for support and feel they cannot afford the $30, >> that is their choice to make. >> >> The level of support and information that is given on our mailing list for >> an annual fee of $30 is more than reasonable. A consultant will charge that >> for one email support issue. >> >> I am disappointed in some members attitudes that they expect the support, >> but expect others to pay to keep that support possible. >> >> The committee has taken a long hard time to make this decision and I applaud >> their decision. >> >> Regards, >> Ronni >> Sent from Ronni's iPad >> >> On 28/06/2012, at 7:15 AM, Tim Law <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Since I bought my first Mac in 1989, I've attended one WAMUG meeting. >>> >>> But I've learned heaps from receiving the list emails, and been able to ask >>> a question or two over the years. For me WAMUG IS the email list. >>> >>> I agree with Carlo, and the minimal cost is completely reasonable to >>> receive reliable accurate info and feedback. This is unlike other non >>> computer forums that I participate in where users are all amateurs and >>> their contributions are only as accurate as their experiences. >>> >>> I urge caution for the committee providing free access based on requests >>> from members. If it is based on the applicants ability to add value to the >>> list, then that is one matter, but to make assessment on income is likely >>> to get bogged down in value judgements, comparisons between applicants and >>> other messy things, all for such a small amount of money. >>> >>> I think it's a shame that people are seeing this small fee as a reason to >>> exit the list. We live in a user pays world, I support the committees >>> decision. >>> >>> Tim >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On 27/06/2012, at 23:06, cm <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Peter and Eugene and other list members, >>>> >>>> We list followers are really grateful for your contributions over the >>>> years and we contributors are honoured to have been able to help you out >>>> on other occasions. I just wanted to let you know that there is no need at >>>> all to end your connection with WAMUG. You will still be able to read any >>>> and all posts to the list, and you will still continue to receive WAMUG >>>> emails to your inbox unless you choose to stop them. Also if you ever >>>> happen to be passing through Perth, meetings are open to all and we would >>>> love to see you there. >>>> >>>> The decision to allow posting to only members was not made lightly. >>>> Running the list has a very real cost, both financial and in the time of >>>> contributors, fairness dictates that those who pay the membership fee are >>>> entitled to use the service above other persons who join, post a random >>>> question or put up for sale a piece of equipment, and then disappear. >>>> Sadly neither of you, Peter and Eugene, are anywhere near to this category >>>> of user so I have two solutions to suggest. Firstly remember that the >>>> WAMUG membership fee is less than a reasonable call-out charge for most >>>> Mac consultants. So if at some future time you need a consultant, consider >>>> joining our list and with luck we will all pitch in, fix the problem, and >>>> you will come out financially ahead. The second solution I would like to >>>> offer is that at the next committee meeting we will discuss some bursaries >>>> for members who really cannot afford to pay the membership fee. This would >>>> be entirely confidential between the pr o > s >> p >>> ec >>>> tive member and WAMUG. If the committee is in agreement you will see a >>>> mail out on this subject after the next committee meeting on July 17 and >>>> our website will be updated to reflect this. >>>> >>>> So I really hope this is arrivederci rather than adieu, and if not we are >>>> grateful for your contribution to WAMUG. >>>> >>>> All the best, >>>> Carlo >>>> >>>> On 27/06/2012, at 21:34 , Reg Whitely wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Eugene >>>>> >>>>> I have never met you but you have helped me, and so many others others, >>>>> in so many ways on the WAMUG mailing list. >>>>> >>>>> As I have said to Peter, I have appreciated all responses to my queries >>>>> from you, and from others on this mailing list, for many years, and want >>>>> this to continue. >>>>> >>>>> Please do not discard the WAMUG Ship yet. >>>>> >>>>> Reg >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Reg Whitely >>>>> >>>>> Home: 08 9921 7272 >>>>> Mob: 04 8899 7313 >>>>> Email: [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 27/06/2012, at 7:54 pm, Eugene de Gouw wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Like Peter I too must send my final farewells as this will likely be the >>>>>> last time I am able to write to the list. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have been associated with WAMUG virtually since its inception, >>>>>> attending meetings at Curtin University in the early years. Family and >>>>>> work commitments impacted and eventually curtailed my physical presence >>>>>> at these meetings but with the advent of the internet and the WAMUG >>>>>> mailing list I was able to maintain contact. >>>>>> >>>>>> From time to time I contributed to solutions, aiding in problem solving >>>>>> and at other times was quite delighted at the quick and accurate >>>>>> response from others when I encountered problems myself. >>>>>> >>>>>> I thank this community of Macintosh fanatics as I have enjoyed the >>>>>> friendly dialogue. >>>>>> >>>>>> I wish you all the best as you move into the next phase of WAMUG. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Eugene >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 27/06/2012, at 7:00 PM, Peter Sealy wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I would like to say adieu to you good folks as 30 Jun is just about >>>>>>> here. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have not contributed a great deal to this group partly because by the >>>>>>> time I have got around to reading any email which I could have answered >>>>>>> someone else has answered the question, most often of course the >>>>>>> indefatigable and amazing Ronni. That in no way dimishes the effort put >>>>>>> in by many others to contribute to the group. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The other reason for the paucity of my contribution is that I see >>>>>>> myself as a minnow in the Mac geekdom. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As an Age pensioner I have to ration my memberships to social >>>>>>> organisations and while the membership fee may be 'only' a small amount >>>>>>> to you still working, I need to be careful. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am the List Admin and Moderator of the ACT Apple Help Email List >>>>>>> which keeps me busy in observing the Mac webosphere. And as a paid up >>>>>>> member of this august group, that cuts out my 'hobby' fees. I lived in >>>>>>> Canberra for many years but now live in Albury. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We do not require paid membership of our MUG to join our email Help >>>>>>> List. Merely being a Mac enthusiast is sufficient. That said we don't >>>>>>> have many non-Group members in the List and if any of you sought to >>>>>>> send your electrons eastward we would make you welcome. The warning is >>>>>>> that our List is nowhere as active or cerebral as yours. Athough we do >>>>>>> publish a monthly Newsletter (for financial members). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best wishes, see you in the Mac cloud. Thank you for the camaraderie. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Peter Sealy >>>>>>> Thurgoona AUSTRALIA >>>>>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>>>>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>>>>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>>>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>>>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>>>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>>>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >>>>> >>>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >>>> >>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >> Settings & Unsubscribe - >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
