Hi Carlo, tried that and at step 2) I get 

-bash: $: command not found

I think Terminal commands as you suggest might be needed given the state the MB 
is in.

Regards

Pete

On 03/08/2012, at 10:36 PM, "[email protected]" 
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Additional note. In step 4) you will be prompted for a password. Enter the 
> password for the Mac account you are logged in with.
> 
> C
> 
> ---
> Carlo Margio
> Real World Computing
> 
> mob: 0404 296 965
> [email protected]
> www.realworldcomputing.com.au
> 
> On 03/08/2012, at 22:35 , [email protected] wrote:
> 
>> Hi Pete,
>> 
>> Perhaps Tims Macbook is still somehow associated with the old sparsebundle, 
>> which because it has be semi-erased can no longer be mounted.
>> 
>> I think you should nuke the old sparsebundle using Terminal if you can and 
>> then using Time Machine preferences reselect the the Time Capsule for you 
>> backups.
>> 
>> So to delete the sparse bundle proceed as follows.
>> 
>> 1) In Finder mount the Time Capsule by clicking on it in the Finder sidebar. 
>> Navigate to the Data directory but no need to do anything further in Finder.
>> 2) In Terminal now do the following
>> $ cd /Volumes/Data
>> 
>> 3) At this point type
>> $ ls -l
>> 
>> and you should see User's.sparsebundle or whatever it is called
>> 
>> 4) Still in terminal type
>> $ sudo rm -rf <sparse bundle name>
>> Where <sparse bundle name> is the name from step 3)
>> 
>> Good luck!
>> 
>> Carlo
>> 
>> ---
>> Carlo Margio
>> Real World Computing
>> 
>> mob: 0404 296 965
>> [email protected]
>> www.realworldcomputing.com.au
>> 
>> On 03/08/2012, at 22:22 , Peter Crisp <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Carlo, yes I am a big fan of rebooting all devices when all is quiet and 
>>> no data transfers or backup occuring. Just prior to me rebooting the TC, 
>>> Jo's Macbook and James' Macbook just completed their successful hourly 
>>> backups. so shortly after this was over I re-powered the TC AND Tim's 
>>> Macbook, just in case. but still no effect. I am very patient with restarts 
>>> too, to ensure full reboot has settled before commanding any further 
>>> actions - in case activity were to interrupt something important settling.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Pete....
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 03/08/2012, at 10:13 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Peter,
>>>> 
>>>> Have you tried rebooting the Time Capsule itself. When none of your 
>>>> computers are backing up and it's quiet. Just unplug it, wait a few 
>>>> seconds and plug it back in. Alternatively you can reboot it from AirPort 
>>>> Utility but unplugging when it is idle works fine too.
>>>> 
>>>> Just for good measure. Reboot Tims Macbook at the same time.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Carlo
>>>> 
>>>> ---
>>>> Carlo Margio
>>>> Real World Computing
>>>> 
>>>> mob: 0404 296 965
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> www.realworldcomputing.com.au
>>>> 
>>>> On 03/08/2012, at 22:08 , Peter Crisp <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Ok, this is testing me a bit. I have renamed Tims Macbook so username is 
>>>>> "Tims Macbook". I also tried to delete the "User User's" Sparesebundle 
>>>>> and it says can't do that as "Bands" is still in use. I managed to get 
>>>>> into "Bands" and was successful in deleting the contents of "Bands" but 
>>>>> unable to delete the root folder for the sparesebundle. That is probably 
>>>>> not relevant as I am hoping to create a new sparesebundle for "Tims 
>>>>> Macbook" and kick off a whole new backup.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've unmounted the Timecapsule many times and reset the backup process to 
>>>>> kick off but every time I re-run the process I get the message "The 
>>>>> backup disc image could not be mounted". I was expecting to see the Time 
>>>>> capsule disc image on the desktop during the backup process (like the 
>>>>> other Macbooks) but it doesn't do that.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It needs a big stick to fully reset the need to start backup with Time 
>>>>> Machine. The "User's User" sparesbundle root folder still remains too.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What am I missing?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> 
>>>>> Pete.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 03/08/2012, at 5:52 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Peter,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Minecraft is probably setup to Run as Administrator.  Also Net Nanny 
>>>>>> might be restricting it in Tim's Account.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Time Machine backups As an administrator, there’s no special magic you 
>>>>>> have to perform to back up all the User Accounts using Time Machine. By 
>>>>>> default, Time Machine backs up all accounts. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> When restoring data from a Time Machine backup, each user is limited by 
>>>>>> their account’s privileges. With a locked down parentally controlled 
>>>>>> account, for example, that account’s user won’t be able to access Time 
>>>>>> Machine (though you, as an administrator, can by modifying the account’s 
>>>>>> limits, do what needs to be done, and then restore those limits). 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And no user can access the contents of another user’s backed up files 
>>>>>> from within Time Machine.
>>>>>> (However, an administrator can browse a Time Machine backup folder 
>>>>>> within the Finder, navigate to another user’s folder, and change the 
>>>>>> privileges on that folder to gain access.)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Ronni
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 03/08/2012, at 5:18 PM, Peter Crisp <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ok, thanks for all that Ronni, I'll go through this all tonight I hope.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Just to expand a little more on accounts and machine name, I am 
>>>>>>> actually unsure how User's User came about, yes embarrassing I know, I 
>>>>>>> bet a few chuckles by others, me included. In any case I'll sort that 
>>>>>>> out. On Tim's MacBook, there are two accounts, one for Tim, the other 
>>>>>>> Administrator. 98% of the use of both boys MacBooks is to play a 
>>>>>>> confounded game Minecraft. The other 2% is for iTunes so they can play 
>>>>>>> the West Coast Eagles theme song and synch their apps from iPod Touch's 
>>>>>>> they both have!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Anyway, Tim's account is set up with Parental Controls (he's 9), which 
>>>>>>> works fine, but for some reason I never fully explored, Minecraft won't 
>>>>>>> play (I forget the error message) under Tim's account, so I permit him 
>>>>>>> to use the Administrator account - with me doing the login. We have Net 
>>>>>>> Nanny (specific password controlled) on all Macbooks for content 
>>>>>>> control set very HARD and that seems to give the requisite regulation. 
>>>>>>> I suppose there is some exposure he could corrupt something with his 
>>>>>>> Admin privileges but with Time Machine I can restore. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So maybe I should explore why Tim's account prevents Minecraft running 
>>>>>>> - if I have the energy that is.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Pete
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 03/08/2012, at 12:37 PM, Ronda Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Pete,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Currently it is "User's User" and that by the way is not my sons 
>>>>>>>>> name! I think the apostrophe not being ASCII will throw it
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yes, having any punctuation mark in Computer Name can/will cause 
>>>>>>>> problems with Time Machine 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> How on earth did your son's MacBook get the name "User's User"?
>>>>>>>> What name does he have in System Preferences > Users & Groups ?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> For housekeeping, should I delete the "User's User" sparse bundle 
>>>>>>>>> file?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yes, delete the "User's User" sparsebundle from Time Capsule. It 
>>>>>>>> possibly does contain some data (therefore taking space)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> To delete the backups for one computer without disturbing anything 
>>>>>>>> else on the Time Capsule's Internal Disk.
>>>>>>>> 1. Connect via Ethernet cable if possible as much faster than deleting 
>>>>>>>> via Wi-Fi 
>>>>>>>> 2. Open Time Capsule under Shared in Finder Sidebar
>>>>>>>> 3. Click the Data folder
>>>>>>>> 4. You will now see a xxxxx.sparsebundle file for each of the 
>>>>>>>> computers that have been backing up. 
>>>>>>>> The file contains the name of the computer and the MAC address so you 
>>>>>>>> should be able to easily identify the xxxxx.sparsebundle file that you 
>>>>>>>> want to delete.
>>>>>>>> 5. Click the xxxxx.sparsebundle file to highlight it and then click 
>>>>>>>> the 'Gear' shaped icon just above and select 'Move to Trash'.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> NOTE: Be very careful since you will not be able to retrieve the file 
>>>>>>>> if you make a mistake and delete the wrong file.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> After it has deleted everything contained in the sparsebundle; setup 
>>>>>>>> Time Machine in System Preferences > Select Disk  and let Time Machine 
>>>>>>>> backup the MacBook
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Also, is a Time Machine backup a 'whole computer' backup or is it 
>>>>>>>>> account specific?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Time Machine backups the complete system UNLESS you have chosen to 
>>>>>>>> exclude any items from backups.
>>>>>>>> You need a full backup of the system in case you ever need to do a 
>>>>>>>> full Restore.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Do you have more than one User Account on any of the MacBooks?
>>>>>>>> If so post back and I'll explain more.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Ronni
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 03/08/2012, at 6:36 AM, Peter Crisp <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Ronni, I can see I have at least one issue to resolve- the 
>>>>>>>>> computers name. Currently it is "User's User" and that by the way is 
>>>>>>>>> not my sons name! I think the apostrophe not being ASCII will throw 
>>>>>>>>> it. By contrast the other two MacBooks are properly named after their 
>>>>>>>>> user.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> So I will follow your instructions to correct that tonight when I'm 
>>>>>>>>> home again.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The other issue I don't see an immediate solution for is my inability 
>>>>>>>>> to "unmount" the disc image, there is no Eject triangle next to "Time 
>>>>>>>>> Capsule" in the Finder side bar and nor does it appear on the 
>>>>>>>>> Desktop. Maybe this won't matter when the name is resolved as there 
>>>>>>>>> was never a backup in place from which to continue from it seems. I 
>>>>>>>>> fully expect a first time backup is needed.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> For housekeeping, should I delete the "User's User" sparse bundle 
>>>>>>>>> file?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Also, is a Time Machine backup a 'whole computer' backup or is it 
>>>>>>>>> account specific?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Pete
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 02/08/2012, at 10:00 PM, Ronda Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Peter,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Just a quick reply before I shutdown from computer work for the day.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> First, it is important to distinguish this error message from 
>>>>>>>>>> another, similar Time Machine error that states “The backup volume 
>>>>>>>>>> could not be mounted”. This is important as the causes and cures for 
>>>>>>>>>> these two errors can be very different.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> *Unmount the Backup Disk Image* (TC)
>>>>>>>>>> If, for some reason, you have manually mounted the Time Machine 
>>>>>>>>>> backup disk image (sparsebundle), or Time Machine failed to eject it 
>>>>>>>>>> after the previous backup, subsequent backups may fail. (Console - 
>>>>>>>>>> “Failed to mount disk image”… “Backup failed with error: 21”)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Eject the backup disk image (sparsebundle) by either clicking the 
>>>>>>>>>> little Eject icon to the right of the disk image in the Finders’ 
>>>>>>>>>> Sidebar, or Ctrl-Click the drive icon on the desktop and select 
>>>>>>>>>> “Eject” from the contextual menu. Now try backing up again or 
>>>>>>>>>> launching Time Machine to view previous backups.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> *Proper Computer Name* #
>>>>>>>>>> Make sure your computer has a proper name. Go to System Preferences 
>>>>>>>>>> > Sharing. Time Machine needs to differentiate your computer from 
>>>>>>>>>> others on your network (i.e. "Bills MacBook" or "Office iMac"). If 
>>>>>>>>>> the "Computer Name" field is blank, create a name. Realise that if 
>>>>>>>>>> this step is necessary, you will likely have to start the Time 
>>>>>>>>>> Machine backup process over again and do another full initial backup.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Time Machine may experience problems if your computer name includes 
>>>>>>>>>> certain characters. Make sure the computer name only includes ASCII 
>>>>>>>>>> characters from the following set. 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> (0123456789abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Once a change in the computer name occurs, you should stop and 
>>>>>>>>>> restart Sharing on the affected computer. Uncheck and then recheck 
>>>>>>>>>> Sharing in the Services list on the left.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Ronni
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 02/08/2012, at 9:08 PM, Peter Crisp <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, I have 3 Macbooks in my house all attached to a Time Capsule 
>>>>>>>>>>> for backing up. One (MB1) has been backing up VERY reliably since 
>>>>>>>>>>> 2009 when it was first attached, the other two (MB2 and MB3) I 
>>>>>>>>>>> thought were backing up reliably since their connection in early 
>>>>>>>>>>> 2012 but on closer inspection, it is not the case.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> MB1 is an SL (10.6.8) White Macbook, the other two are both 10.5.8 
>>>>>>>>>>> (Leopard) Black Macbooks.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Connection was easy when MB2 and MB3 were attached and I thought 
>>>>>>>>>>> they were backing up reliably ever since they were connected and I 
>>>>>>>>>>> was confident as MB1 was so reliable.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Just the other day I noticed MB2 was not backing up so I took 
>>>>>>>>>>> interest to watch it go through the process. It starts by 
>>>>>>>>>>> "preparing backup" then responds with "The backup disc image could 
>>>>>>>>>>> not be mounted". In Finder on MB2 I am able to see "....Time 
>>>>>>>>>>> Capsule" in the devices panel, but when selected, the sparesebundle 
>>>>>>>>>>> does not appear as they do when doing this on the other two MB's. 
>>>>>>>>>>> The "Modified" date on the MB2 Sparesebundle when checked from the 
>>>>>>>>>>> other MB's is in fact the same date it was fist set up - so it's 
>>>>>>>>>>> done nothing the whole time since January 2012.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> How do I reset it to effectively start from scratch - as no backups 
>>>>>>>>>>> have occurred in any case, there is no backup to loose. I done some 
>>>>>>>>>>> navigating around to try it all over but still no effect.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Pete.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
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