Ok thanks for that Carlo, I understand what you're saying, I have a spare 150GB 
external drive, what format does it need setting as to create the clone? It is 
a 250GB Macbook with 180GB showing available in Finder, I think the 150GB is 
big enough for this cloning process. I will do a browse for the CCC 3.4.x 
version.

Thanks heaps for help here. 

Stay tuned - !

Regards

Pete....



On 03/08/2012, at 11:20 PM, [email protected] wrote:

> Hi Pete,
> 
> I have seen that condition before where bash is not installed. To rectify 
> things you need to reinstall the same version of OS X over the top of your 
> current install - I think you said it was OS X 10.5 Leopard. Take all the 
> usual precautions before the install. I'll give you a quick run down here but 
> if you need more detail on any step post back.
> 
> 1) In disk Utility verify disk and if necessary repair disk.
> 
> 2) Still in Disk Utility repair permissions.
> 
> 3) Because Time Machine is not working, find an external drive of sufficient 
> capacity and make a clone of you internal drive. I use Carbon Copy Cloner but 
> others use Super Duper. You will have  to use an older version, CCC 3.4.x, to 
> handle Leopard.
> 
> 4) Run the install of Leopard again on your internal hard drive. All your 
> data, application, and preference files will be preserved but system files 
> will be refreshed.
> 
> I believe that once you have done all that, you can then proceed to deleting 
> the sparse bundle and re-establishing Time Machine backups.
> 
> Regards,
> Carlo
> 
> ---
> Carlo Margio
> Real World Computing
> 
> mob: 0404 296 965
> [email protected]
> www.realworldcomputing.com.au
> 
> On 03/08/2012, at 23:08 , Peter Crisp <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Carlo, tried that and at step 2) I get 
>> 
>> -bash: $: command not found
>> 
>> I think Terminal commands as you suggest might be needed given the state the 
>> MB is in.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Pete
>> 
>> On 03/08/2012, at 10:36 PM, "[email protected]" 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Additional note. In step 4) you will be prompted for a password. Enter the 
>>> password for the Mac account you are logged in with.
>>> 
>>> C
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> Carlo Margio
>>> Real World Computing
>>> 
>>> mob: 0404 296 965
>>> [email protected]
>>> www.realworldcomputing.com.au
>>> 
>>> On 03/08/2012, at 22:35 , [email protected] wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Pete,
>>>> 
>>>> Perhaps Tims Macbook is still somehow associated with the old 
>>>> sparsebundle, which because it has be semi-erased can no longer be mounted.
>>>> 
>>>> I think you should nuke the old sparsebundle using Terminal if you can and 
>>>> then using Time Machine preferences reselect the the Time Capsule for you 
>>>> backups.
>>>> 
>>>> So to delete the sparse bundle proceed as follows.
>>>> 
>>>> 1) In Finder mount the Time Capsule by clicking on it in the Finder 
>>>> sidebar. Navigate to the Data directory but no need to do anything further 
>>>> in Finder.
>>>> 2) In Terminal now do the following
>>>> $ cd /Volumes/Data
>>>> 
>>>> 3) At this point type
>>>> $ ls -l
>>>> 
>>>> and you should see User's.sparsebundle or whatever it is called
>>>> 
>>>> 4) Still in terminal type
>>>> $ sudo rm -rf <sparse bundle name>
>>>> Where <sparse bundle name> is the name from step 3)
>>>> 
>>>> Good luck!
>>>> 
>>>> Carlo
>>>> 
>>>> ---
>>>> Carlo Margio
>>>> Real World Computing
>>>> 
>>>> mob: 0404 296 965
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> www.realworldcomputing.com.au
>>>> 
>>>> On 03/08/2012, at 22:22 , Peter Crisp <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Carlo, yes I am a big fan of rebooting all devices when all is quiet 
>>>>> and no data transfers or backup occuring. Just prior to me rebooting the 
>>>>> TC, Jo's Macbook and James' Macbook just completed their successful 
>>>>> hourly backups. so shortly after this was over I re-powered the TC AND 
>>>>> Tim's Macbook, just in case. but still no effect. I am very patient with 
>>>>> restarts too, to ensure full reboot has settled before commanding any 
>>>>> further actions - in case activity were to interrupt something important 
>>>>> settling.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> 
>>>>> Pete....
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 03/08/2012, at 10:13 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Peter,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Have you tried rebooting the Time Capsule itself. When none of your 
>>>>>> computers are backing up and it's quiet. Just unplug it, wait a few 
>>>>>> seconds and plug it back in. Alternatively you can reboot it from 
>>>>>> AirPort Utility but unplugging when it is idle works fine too.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just for good measure. Reboot Tims Macbook at the same time.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Carlo
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Carlo Margio
>>>>>> Real World Computing
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> mob: 0404 296 965
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>> www.realworldcomputing.com.au
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 03/08/2012, at 22:08 , Peter Crisp <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ok, this is testing me a bit. I have renamed Tims Macbook so username 
>>>>>>> is "Tims Macbook". I also tried to delete the "User User's" 
>>>>>>> Sparesebundle and it says can't do that as "Bands" is still in use. I 
>>>>>>> managed to get into "Bands" and was successful in deleting the contents 
>>>>>>> of "Bands" but unable to delete the root folder for the sparesebundle. 
>>>>>>> That is probably not relevant as I am hoping to create a new 
>>>>>>> sparesebundle for "Tims Macbook" and kick off a whole new backup.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I've unmounted the Timecapsule many times and reset the backup process 
>>>>>>> to kick off but every time I re-run the process I get the message "The 
>>>>>>> backup disc image could not be mounted". I was expecting to see the 
>>>>>>> Time capsule disc image on the desktop during the backup process (like 
>>>>>>> the other Macbooks) but it doesn't do that.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It needs a big stick to fully reset the need to start backup with Time 
>>>>>>> Machine. The "User's User" sparesbundle root folder still remains too.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What am I missing?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Pete.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 03/08/2012, at 5:52 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Peter,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Minecraft is probably setup to Run as Administrator.  Also Net Nanny 
>>>>>>>> might be restricting it in Tim's Account.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Time Machine backups As an administrator, there’s no special magic you 
>>>>>>>> have to perform to back up all the User Accounts using Time Machine. 
>>>>>>>> By default, Time Machine backs up all accounts. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> When restoring data from a Time Machine backup, each user is limited 
>>>>>>>> by their account’s privileges. With a locked down parentally 
>>>>>>>> controlled account, for example, that account’s user won’t be able to 
>>>>>>>> access Time Machine (though you, as an administrator, can by modifying 
>>>>>>>> the account’s limits, do what needs to be done, and then restore those 
>>>>>>>> limits). 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> And no user can access the contents of another user’s backed up files 
>>>>>>>> from within Time Machine.
>>>>>>>> (However, an administrator can browse a Time Machine backup folder 
>>>>>>>> within the Finder, navigate to another user’s folder, and change the 
>>>>>>>> privileges on that folder to gain access.)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Ronni
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 03/08/2012, at 5:18 PM, Peter Crisp <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Ok, thanks for all that Ronni, I'll go through this all tonight I 
>>>>>>>>> hope.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Just to expand a little more on accounts and machine name, I am 
>>>>>>>>> actually unsure how User's User came about, yes embarrassing I know, 
>>>>>>>>> I bet a few chuckles by others, me included. In any case I'll sort 
>>>>>>>>> that out. On Tim's MacBook, there are two accounts, one for Tim, the 
>>>>>>>>> other Administrator. 98% of the use of both boys MacBooks is to play 
>>>>>>>>> a confounded game Minecraft. The other 2% is for iTunes so they can 
>>>>>>>>> play the West Coast Eagles theme song and synch their apps from iPod 
>>>>>>>>> Touch's they both have!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Anyway, Tim's account is set up with Parental Controls (he's 9), 
>>>>>>>>> which works fine, but for some reason I never fully explored, 
>>>>>>>>> Minecraft won't play (I forget the error message) under Tim's 
>>>>>>>>> account, so I permit him to use the Administrator account - with me 
>>>>>>>>> doing the login. We have Net Nanny (specific password controlled) on 
>>>>>>>>> all Macbooks for content control set very HARD and that seems to give 
>>>>>>>>> the requisite regulation. I suppose there is some exposure he could 
>>>>>>>>> corrupt something with his Admin privileges but with Time Machine I 
>>>>>>>>> can restore. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> So maybe I should explore why Tim's account prevents Minecraft 
>>>>>>>>> running - if I have the energy that is.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Pete
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 03/08/2012, at 12:37 PM, Ronda Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Pete,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Currently it is "User's User" and that by the way is not my sons 
>>>>>>>>>>> name! I think the apostrophe not being ASCII will throw it
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, having any punctuation mark in Computer Name can/will cause 
>>>>>>>>>> problems with Time Machine 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> How on earth did your son's MacBook get the name "User's User"?
>>>>>>>>>> What name does he have in System Preferences > Users & Groups ?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> For housekeeping, should I delete the "User's User" sparse bundle 
>>>>>>>>>>> file?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, delete the "User's User" sparsebundle from Time Capsule. It 
>>>>>>>>>> possibly does contain some data (therefore taking space)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> To delete the backups for one computer without disturbing anything 
>>>>>>>>>> else on the Time Capsule's Internal Disk.
>>>>>>>>>> 1. Connect via Ethernet cable if possible as much faster than 
>>>>>>>>>> deleting via Wi-Fi 
>>>>>>>>>> 2. Open Time Capsule under Shared in Finder Sidebar
>>>>>>>>>> 3. Click the Data folder
>>>>>>>>>> 4. You will now see a xxxxx.sparsebundle file for each of the 
>>>>>>>>>> computers that have been backing up. 
>>>>>>>>>> The file contains the name of the computer and the MAC address so 
>>>>>>>>>> you should be able to easily identify the xxxxx.sparsebundle file 
>>>>>>>>>> that you want to delete.
>>>>>>>>>> 5. Click the xxxxx.sparsebundle file to highlight it and then click 
>>>>>>>>>> the 'Gear' shaped icon just above and select 'Move to Trash'.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> NOTE: Be very careful since you will not be able to retrieve the 
>>>>>>>>>> file if you make a mistake and delete the wrong file.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> After it has deleted everything contained in the sparsebundle; setup 
>>>>>>>>>> Time Machine in System Preferences > Select Disk  and let Time 
>>>>>>>>>> Machine backup the MacBook
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Also, is a Time Machine backup a 'whole computer' backup or is it 
>>>>>>>>>>> account specific?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Time Machine backups the complete system UNLESS you have chosen to 
>>>>>>>>>> exclude any items from backups.
>>>>>>>>>> You need a full backup of the system in case you ever need to do a 
>>>>>>>>>> full Restore.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Do you have more than one User Account on any of the MacBooks?
>>>>>>>>>> If so post back and I'll explain more.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Ronni
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 03/08/2012, at 6:36 AM, Peter Crisp <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Ronni, I can see I have at least one issue to resolve- the 
>>>>>>>>>>> computers name. Currently it is "User's User" and that by the way 
>>>>>>>>>>> is not my sons name! I think the apostrophe not being ASCII will 
>>>>>>>>>>> throw it. By contrast the other two MacBooks are properly named 
>>>>>>>>>>> after their user.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> So I will follow your instructions to correct that tonight when I'm 
>>>>>>>>>>> home again.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> The other issue I don't see an immediate solution for is my 
>>>>>>>>>>> inability to "unmount" the disc image, there is no Eject triangle 
>>>>>>>>>>> next to "Time Capsule" in the Finder side bar and nor does it 
>>>>>>>>>>> appear on the Desktop. Maybe this won't matter when the name is 
>>>>>>>>>>> resolved as there was never a backup in place from which to 
>>>>>>>>>>> continue from it seems. I fully expect a first time backup is 
>>>>>>>>>>> needed.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> For housekeeping, should I delete the "User's User" sparse bundle 
>>>>>>>>>>> file?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Also, is a Time Machine backup a 'whole computer' backup or is it 
>>>>>>>>>>> account specific?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Pete
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 02/08/2012, at 10:00 PM, Ronda Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Peter,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Just a quick reply before I shutdown from computer work for the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> day.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> First, it is important to distinguish this error message from 
>>>>>>>>>>>> another, similar Time Machine error that states “The backup volume 
>>>>>>>>>>>> could not be mounted”. This is important as the causes and cures 
>>>>>>>>>>>> for these two errors can be very different.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Unmount the Backup Disk Image* (TC)
>>>>>>>>>>>> If, for some reason, you have manually mounted the Time Machine 
>>>>>>>>>>>> backup disk image (sparsebundle), or Time Machine failed to eject 
>>>>>>>>>>>> it after the previous backup, subsequent backups may fail. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> (Console - “Failed to mount disk image”… “Backup failed with 
>>>>>>>>>>>> error: 21”)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Eject the backup disk image (sparsebundle) by either clicking the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> little Eject icon to the right of the disk image in the Finders’ 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sidebar, or Ctrl-Click the drive icon on the desktop and select 
>>>>>>>>>>>> “Eject” from the contextual menu. Now try backing up again or 
>>>>>>>>>>>> launching Time Machine to view previous backups.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Proper Computer Name* #
>>>>>>>>>>>> Make sure your computer has a proper name. Go to System 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Preferences > Sharing. Time Machine needs to differentiate your 
>>>>>>>>>>>> computer from others on your network (i.e. "Bills MacBook" or 
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Office iMac"). If the "Computer Name" field is blank, create a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> name. Realise that if this step is necessary, you will likely have 
>>>>>>>>>>>> to start the Time Machine backup process over again and do another 
>>>>>>>>>>>> full initial backup.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Time Machine may experience problems if your computer name 
>>>>>>>>>>>> includes certain characters. Make sure the computer name only 
>>>>>>>>>>>> includes ASCII characters from the following set. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> (0123456789abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Once a change in the computer name occurs, you should stop and 
>>>>>>>>>>>> restart Sharing on the affected computer. Uncheck and then recheck 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sharing in the Services list on the left.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ronni
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 02/08/2012, at 9:08 PM, Peter Crisp <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, I have 3 Macbooks in my house all attached to a Time Capsule 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for backing up. One (MB1) has been backing up VERY reliably since 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2009 when it was first attached, the other two (MB2 and MB3) I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought were backing up reliably since their connection in early 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2012 but on closer inspection, it is not the case.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> MB1 is an SL (10.6.8) White Macbook, the other two are both 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10.5.8 (Leopard) Black Macbooks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Connection was easy when MB2 and MB3 were attached and I thought 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they were backing up reliably ever since they were connected and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was confident as MB1 was so reliable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just the other day I noticed MB2 was not backing up so I took 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> interest to watch it go through the process. It starts by 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "preparing backup" then responds with "The backup disc image 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> could not be mounted". In Finder on MB2 I am able to see 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "....Time Capsule" in the devices panel, but when selected, the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sparesebundle does not appear as they do when doing this on the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> other two MB's. The "Modified" date on the MB2 Sparesebundle when 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> checked from the other MB's is in fact the same date it was fist 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> set up - so it's done nothing the whole time since January 2012.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do I reset it to effectively start from scratch - as no 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> backups have occurred in any case, there is no backup to loose. I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> done some navigating around to try it all over but still no 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> effect.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pete.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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