Thanks Daniel. I'm about to do this. Is it safe to migrate the apps back as well as data. I know I will need to although I also read it's good practice to download the latest versions fresh from the web. Unfortunately there are some I simply can't download and will need to migrate. Will this re-introduce corrupt data?
Reg On 25/06/2013, at 9:05 pm, Daniel Kerr <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Reg > > Yes, as Ronni's mentioned it sounds like you'd you set it up then migrated > after that, as that's normally what happens with the "name conflict". > > It's pretty easy to reset it up (well fairly easy). Just run a Time Machine > backup and perhaps a second bootable clone backup as well (to cover all the > bases). Once happy everything is backed up restart the machine with Option > key held down and boot into recovery partition. > Erase with Disk Utility then choose "reinstall OSX". It will take a while as > a) it has to download the whole 10.8.4 4GB image again off the Internet then > install it. So that can take 2-8 hours or more depending on your Internet and > congestion of servers (download servers). > It will then install and restart and you have the choice to restore (you can > then choose to restore from a) your clone or b) Time Machine backup. > It will then restore all your data etc. > After that, all should be good. > > Easy :)) > > Hope that helps. > Just got home so now about to go eat dinner, Er lunch really after my blah > day. (Was going well until my car decided to get a flat tyre....in the > rain....and make me late.....lol. Cars eh!) > > Have fun. > > Kind regards > Daniel > > Sent from my iPhone 5 > > --- > Daniel Kerr > MacWizardry > > Phone: 0414 795 960 > Email: <danielATmacwizardryDOTcomDOTau> > Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> > > > **For everything Apple** > > On 25/06/2013, at 8:00 PM, Ronda Brown <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Reg, >> >>> I suspect it happened when I first used Migration Assistant and it told me >>> I couldn't have the same user name as one that already existed. I changed >>> the name and continued. Would that have affected permissions etc? >> >> >> Yes. it sounds like you had already setup the User Account with the same >> name on the MacBook Pro and then used Migration Assistant to transfer a same >> named User Account. >> >> I've found it is always best to do the migration at the First Startup using >> Setup Assistant. Otherwise you can run into User Account Permission problems >> and other issues. >> >> Cheers, >> Ronni >> Sent from Ronni's iPad4 >> >> On 25/06/2013, at 6:17 PM, Reg Whitely <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Daniel, that's a lot of help. Sounds like some homework coming up. >>> >>> I suspect it happened when I first used Migration Assistant and it told me >>> I couldn't have the same user name as one that already existed. I changed >>> the name and continued. Would that have affected permissions etc? >>> I've used Disk Utility and it repairs permissions but this silly problem >>> still exists. Either that or something came into the system folder from the >>> old MacBook Pro which this Mountain Lion couldn't quite digest! >>> >>> Reg >>> >>> On 25/06/2013, at 5:58 pm, Daniel Kerr <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> No point. Solid State Drives (SSD's) don't work the same as "normal >>>> drives" so you won't gain any benefit from it, and in some cases can make >>>> it worse. >>>> >>>> So I wouldn't recommend Diskwarrior for that type of machine, or ones with >>>> SSD's at all. >>>> >>>> If you're having "strange issues" then I'd try backing everything up then >>>> do a full erase. Once done reinstall the OS and the migrate your files >>>> back. >>>> If you've tried re-installing just the last combo update over the top of >>>> it and issues persist then a clean fresh install with migration back >>>> should fix it. >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> Daniel >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone 5 >>>> >>>> --- >>>> Daniel Kerr >>>> MacWizardry >>>> >>>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>>> Email: <danielATmacwizardryDOTcomDOTau> >>>> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >>>> >>>> >>>> **For everything Apple** >>>> >>>> On 25/06/2013, at 5:33 PM, Reg Whitely <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi WAMUGgers >>>>> >>>>> I've been following this for a while and thank Ronni for her tenacity in >>>>> helping us all. I'm tempted to try Disk Warrior on my new MacBook Pro >>>>> Early 2013 15" Retina which displays curious behaviour at times (ie ML >>>>> Software updates always end up with Install failed messages even though >>>>> they have installed apparently successfully - currently 10.8.4). >>>>> >>>>> However looking at the Disk Warrior website and tech info it is apparent >>>>> that: >>>>> >>>>> "The current DiskWarrior DVD cannot start up the new MacBook Pros >>>>> introduced June 11, 2012. An updated disc that will also start up these >>>>> recent Mac models will be released as soon as Apple, Inc. releases new >>>>> startup files to Alsoft, Inc. and other developers." >>>>> >>>>> Any advice here before I fork out my $99US? I guess I could install this >>>>> on our iMac and do the repairs in Target Disk mode, but I'd rather have >>>>> the most appropriate software in the first instance. >>>>> >>>>> I've sent a tech query to Alsoft and await their response also. >>>>> >>>>> Regards and thanks >>>>> >>>>> Reg >>>>> >>>>> On 25/06/2013, at 7:36 am, Ronni Brown <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> This reply that I sent to WAMUG Mailing list on Friday 21 June 2013 is >>>>>> not showing in the Mailing List Archives. >>>>>> So I'm not sure if it came through to the List. I've forwarded the reply >>>>>> again just in case. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Ronni >>>>>> >>>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Ronni Brown <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: MacBook issues >>>>>>> Date: 21 June 2013 7:59:59 AM AWST >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Reply-To: [email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Stuart, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You need to fix the corruption first if possible. Use DiskWarrior to >>>>>>> Rebuild and Replace the Directory if it can. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How to use DiskWarrior: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The DiskWarrior DVD is bootable. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. Insert the DiskWarrior DVD & Start your Mac, Hold down the “C” >>>>>>> key to start from the DiskWarrior CD. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2. When the computer has completed starting up from the DiskWarrior >>>>>>> CD, the DiskWarrior application will open automatically. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You will then be presented with the DiskWarrior main window from which >>>>>>> you can rebuild disk directories. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3. Select Macintosh HD from the drop-down menu >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 4. The lower portion of the main window will indicate whether the >>>>>>> directory is ready to be rebuilt. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If for some reason DiskWarrior cannot rebuild the disk’s directory, it >>>>>>> will indicate the reasons the directory cannot be rebuilt. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 5. Click the Rebuild button. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> DiskWarrior will begin building the replacement directory on the disk >>>>>>> to be rebuilt. It will first analyse the disk. This analysis can take >>>>>>> anywhere from several seconds to several minutes or longer, depending >>>>>>> on the number of files on the disk. When DiskWarrior is finished, it >>>>>>> will display a dialog informing you of the results of the rebuild. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 6. Click “Replace” to use the replacement directory >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you click “Replace,” DiskWarrior will install the replacement >>>>>>> directory on your disk. This will result in your disk being “replaced” >>>>>>> by the Preview disk described above. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 7. DiskWarrior will install the rebuilt directory and keep you updated >>>>>>> with its progress. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> DiskWarrior uses a fail-safe method of replacing the directory whenever >>>>>>> possible, which will be most cases. To use the fail-safe method, there >>>>>>> merely needs to be enough free space on the disk to write the new >>>>>>> directory. There is redundancy designed into the fail-safe method, >>>>>>> assuring there is never any risk of ending up with an unusable disk if >>>>>>> the process is interrupted. You can go back to step 4 for any disk for >>>>>>> which the process was interrupted. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 8. Quit DiskWarrior by selecting "Quit DiskWarrior" from the >>>>>>> DiskWarrior menu. >>>>>>> Your computer will now restart. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 20/06/2013, at 8:43 PM, Stuart Breden <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks Ronni. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'll try Disk Worrier again. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My daughter does not have a back up of her hard drive. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think I know how to reinstall the operating system with loosing her >>>>>>>> data. Is it all in your tutorial? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Looked on your web site but can't find anything about reinstalling OS >>>>>>>> 10.4. What link do I use? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Stuart Breden >>>>>>>> PO Box 132 >>>>>>>> Kalamunda WA 6926 >>>>>>>> Ph: (08) 9257 1577 >>>>>>>> Mbl: 0417 053 266 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please consider the environment before printing this email >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 20/06/2013, at 12:38 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Stuart, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As I mentioned previously this indicates there is corruption/damage, >>>>>>>>> whether the system software or hardware (hard drive) we are not sure. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I take it this is a MacBook2,1 Intel Core 2 Duo... not MacBook1,1 >>>>>>>>> Intel Core Duo. >>>>>>>>> Because you mentioned the MacBook came with OS X 10.4.8 installed and >>>>>>>>> then you said you updated it to OS X 10.4.8... Don't you mean you >>>>>>>>> were updating it to OS X 10.4.11? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tim's advise of reinstalling the OS system may need to be used. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But first: You mentioned you did boot from the DiskWarrior DVD (it >>>>>>>>> takes about 10 minutes to boot from the disc) and were able to Repair >>>>>>>>> and Replace the Mac's Directory Database? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> After DW finished the repair and replaced the contents of the drive >>>>>>>>> with the fixed one, what happened? >>>>>>>>> Did you remove the DW disc from the drive and reboot as normal? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 19/06/2013, at 10:53 PM, Tim Law <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Stuart, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Just an idea - have you tried reloading your original system >>>>>>>>>> software by starting up with the disk the computer came with? And >>>>>>>>>> once the computer is running fine on the original OS, then upgrading >>>>>>>>>> it to the latest. I'm wondering if somehow it's lost it's operating >>>>>>>>>> system. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Assuming that there were no problems before the upgrade was done, >>>>>>>>>> and Diskwarrior and the AHT did their stuff without throwing up >>>>>>>>>> alarming errors on the state of the disk, I'm wondering if starting >>>>>>>>>> again from scratch would be a reasonable thing to try - through all >>>>>>>>>> the upgrades the system software may have got corrupted somehow. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hopefully you can do all this whilst maintaining the user files. >>>>>>>>>> Does she have a recent backup in case you need to erase the disk and >>>>>>>>>> start really afresh? >>>>>>>>>> It's starting to point to desperate measures me thinks. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Tim >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 19/06/2013, at 8:34 PM, Stuart Breden <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You are correct Ronni. Did not do the Safe Boot quite correctly. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Now followed your instruction to the letter and still the MacBook >>>>>>>>>>> will not boot. As previously opens to blank blue screen. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. Any further advice? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Stuart Breden >>>>>>>>>>> PO Box 132 >>>>>>>>>>> Kalamunda WA 6926 >>>>>>>>>>> Ph: (08) 9257 1577 >>>>>>>>>>> Mbl: 0417 053 266 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Please consider the environment before printing this email >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 18/06/2013, at 9:13 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Stuart, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> A Gray, blue or white screen and/or loading bar - means OS X isn't >>>>>>>>>>>> loading - usually indicating a corrupt/drive issue. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure you correctly did a Safe Mode startup. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Safe boot mode? >>>>>>>>>>>>> When holding down Shift key at startup comes to startup screen >>>>>>>>>>>>> with the wheel continuing to spin. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> That is when you release the Shift key and let the system load. >>>>>>>>>>>> Step 4 below. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It takes longer to startup in Safe Mode than a normal startup. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> To start up into Safe Mode (to Safe Boot): >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Be sure your Mac is shut down. >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Press the power button. >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Immediately after you hear the startup tone, hold the Shift >>>>>>>>>>>> key. >>>>>>>>>>>> The Shift key should be held as soon as possible after the startup >>>>>>>>>>>> tone, but not before the tone. >>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Release the Shift key when you see the gray Apple icon and the >>>>>>>>>>>> progress indicator (looks like a spinning gear). >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> During startup in Mac OS X v10.4 through Mac OS X v10.6.8, you >>>>>>>>>>>> will see "Safe Boot" on the login window. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> To leave Safe Mode, restart the computer normally, without holding >>>>>>>>>>>> any keys during startup. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 18/06/2013, at 8:21 PM, Stuart Breden <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> See below. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Stuart Breden >>>>>>>>>>>>> PO Box 132 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Kalamunda WA 6926 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ph: (08) 9257 1577 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mbl: 0417 053 266 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Please consider the environment before printing this email >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/06/2013, at 8:38 PM, Tim Law wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What have you already tried Stuart? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Safe boot mode? >>>>>>>>>>>>> When holding down Shift key at startup comes to startup screen >>>>>>>>>>>>> with the wheel continuing to spin. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you let it restart all by itself after the software update, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> or did it get turned off before the updates had been completed? >>>>>>>>>>>>> Let it restart by itself and it goes through the startup screen >>>>>>>>>>>>> and then stays on blue screen. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you tried restarting from original disks to make sure it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>> not a hardware issue. Insert original disk and hold C to force >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it to boot from that. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Repaired Permissions and Repair Dick from Dick Utility on >>>>>>>>>>>>> the Disk 1 of the original disks. did the extended hardware test >>>>>>>>>>>>> and no problems. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have disk Warrior, and have you run it? >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> How did you update? Via the normal online Software Update? >>>>>>>>>>>>> v10.4.8 via the normal online Software Update. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What operating system did she have, or have now? >>>>>>>>>>>>> On the original disks it was v10.4.8. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you follow the oft repeated expectations of Ronni before and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> after any upgrades? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> i.e. backup, permissions fix etc etc. She's got a whole tutorial >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on her website if I recall. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes and no. My daughter wanted her MacBook ASAP and did not >>>>>>>>>>>>> follow exactly as I was sick. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or perhaps you are busy managing the relationship with your >>>>>>>>>>>>>> daughter - chocolate etc...... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/06/2013, at 7:35 PM, Stuart Breden <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My daughter has a MacBook Intel Core 2 Duo/1.83 Ghz (November >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20060. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I upgraded it over the weekend following the Software Update. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> She has Microsoft Office 2004. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After I had completed the updates of the system software and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft all I got was a blank blue screen. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What now? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stuart Breden >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PO Box 132 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kalamunda WA 6926 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ph: (08) 9257 1577 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mbl: 0417 053 266 >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >> Settings & Unsubscribe - >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> Reg Whitely Home: 08 9921 7272 Mob: 04 8899 7313 Email: [email protected]
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