Hi Ronni, thanks for that. I don't understand then why just importing one or 
numerous photos from my iPhone into iphoto as I have in the recent past results 
in a backup of just the imported images and not the entire library. The 
software would appear to be intelligent enough to backup the changes to the 
iphoto library and not the whole thing. 

I'm aware of this single file concept behavior like MS Outlook backend mail 
file causes this but this is the first time I have experienced this behavior 
with iphoto.

Prior to doing the drop box upload,  I had placed a copy of the video file on 
the desktop and the upload was of the desktop video file so I divorced the 
upload operation from iphoto completely. 

I realiser this is academic now as it has already happened but it still has me 
interested to know what I did that caused it.

 Regards

Pete.  





<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Ronda Brown 
<[email protected]> </div><div>Date:14/09/2014  21:44  (GMT+08:00) </div><div>To: 
[email protected] </div><div>Subject: Re: Enormous Time Machine backup 
</div><div>
</div>Hi Peter,

Short answer to why Time Machine has done a larger backup of iPhoto.
You had made changes in iPhoto by importing video. Then you were uploading that 
video file to Dropbox.
You are storing your iPhoto library inside of a disk image file (sparsebundle), 
which obviously is a single (huge) file. So any time the disk image changes, 
Time Machine will back up the entire file, which in your case is many gigabytes.

Cheers,
Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad4


On 14 Sep 2014, at 8:31 pm, Peter Crisp <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Ronni, been a bit busy and off caravanning for the weekend.

But this evening I finally got the Time Tracker downloaded and within a minute 
or so I could see the “enormous backup”. Whilst Time Machine was saying it’s 
175GB in size, the Actual file from Time Tracker is 148.4GB. So by zooming into 
the BIG stuff, the culprit is iPhoto. It’s the folder called “Masters” 
responsible for 136GB of the 148.4GB which i presume holds the image Master 
files and the Thumbnails folder responsible for 9.6GB of the 148GB. 

This iPhoto library has been backed up before and for months has been routinely 
doing all the backups normally.

Why would it trigger a Full backup of the iPhoto library all over again. I’ve 
effectively lost 175GB of space on the backup drive for seemingly no good 
reason. 

The Master folder contains beneath it a number of folders one for each year and 
each of these reports in this backup for their respective sizes I presume.

Is there anything I should do?

If I do nothing it will proceed ok but I am puzzled why this “Enormous Backup” 
had to exist.

Thanks for the tip on Time Tracker, it is a beauty.

If I blow away the old sparesebundle and rebuild a backup from scratch, I would 
recover the space but the do nothing option is easier at the moment.

Regards

Pete.


On 8 Sep 2014, at 9:46 pm, Ronni Brown <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Peter,

Why did you download Pacifist? I didn't mention Pacifist, you don't want 
Pacifist!
I said to download 'Time Tracker'
TimeTracker

TimeTracker is a quick-and-dirty application that displays the contents of your 
Time Machine backups, and shows what's changed since the previous backup. 
TimeTracker is in an extremely early state, and is as such very unpolished.

Download TimeTracker (prerelease), which works with 64-bit Intel Macs running 
OS X 10.6.x (Snow Leopard) or greater.
<http://www.charlessoft.com/TimeTracker.zip>

Cheers,
Ronni

On 8 Sep 2014, at 9:29 pm, Peter Crisp <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Ronni, I have downloaded the Pacifist software and in the process of 
"Loading Pete's Macbook" (ie Macbook Sparsebundle file). I don't have a 
Thunderbolt to Ethernet connection so I've gotta do it wirelessly (but I just 
ordered one) so I expect it will take ages to 'Load'. Oh well, hopefully it 
will present the culprit taking up huge data volume from my TC backup disc. I 
have stopped routine TC backups for now - nothing to loose.

Whatever is the cause for this I can do one of two things. Either I understand 
from this exercise what is the cause of this huge data consumption and just 
leave the sparesebundle alone OR I blow away the sparesebundle and do a 
complete backup from scratch again and manage the cause of why this all 
happened so that I can keep the freeboard I had prior to this.

Regards


Pete

On 7 Sep 2014, at 7:20 pm, Ronni Brown <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Peter,

Time Tracker is free; it is pretty basic but usually works well. It only shows 
backups on the current backup destination, though, so if you've got more than 
one, you have to select the one you want (if you're using "rotating backups," 
it's the set most recently backed-up to).
Time Tracker works by comparing a completed backup you select to the one before 
it.
 
So if you select a large backup, it’s going to take a while to determine, 
calculate, and display the items.
If your backups are on a network, connect via Ethernet if possible.
It will still take a while, but be 2-3 times faster than WI-FI.

That also means that, after 24 hours, you're not really looking at what was 
backed-up on a particular backup, but all the backups since the previous one.

And you can’t select the oldest backup, since there’s nothing to compare it to, 
or one that’s running, failed, or was cancelled.

The Time Tracker display is similar to a Finder window in "List View"
The dated backups will show 0 bytes until you select one, then the app will 
calculate the size, so may take a while.
You can click the disclosure triangles to see the items in that folder that 
were backed-up.
 
Time Tracker will only show backups on the volume currently selected for 
backups (or most recently backed-up to) in Time Machine preferences.

The recent version of Time Tracker may give you a permissions error on network 
backups; if it does, try double-clicking the sparse bundle via the Finder to 
mount the disk image.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 7 Sep 2014, at 5:36 pm, Peter Crisp <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi, I have a MacBook Pro Retina 13" 256GB with a 2TB attached external drive 
(currently with around 550GB on the external drive). I have the external drive 
INCLUDED in my TC backups and the backup size (according to the TM Options 
panel) is 659GB. It has been backed up for many months now and routinely has 
been doing the updates hourly per the normal schedule. The backup drive is 1TB 
attached via the USB with a powered hub to the 3TB TC.

I know some might think having only 1TB is small for a machine capable of being 
around 2.25TB (on board Mac Pro drive + the 2TB external) but for the moment 
the held memory is well inside the 1TB limit.

Last night i took a video with my iPhone and then imported it to the MacBook 
Pro to iPhoto. The video file was ~330MB only 2 minutes worth.

Last night I also tried to push the video file up to my Dropbox and it said 
around 1 hour to complete which was fine so I just let it go. This morning when 
I woke up the Macbook, it still hadn't completed and it said it had 10 minutes 
remaining. Then I noticed it commencing a routine backup and I often check the 
size of the backups just to keep a mental track of data backup size. The Backup 
is 174.92GB (yes GB)!!

I was very surprised to see this as normal backups are in the order of ~50MB or 
maybe 1 or 2GB if I have imported some photos but I have never had a routine 
backup this size.

Is there a way that I can interrogate what files are being backed up so I can 
see what has caused this? It will significantly reduce the freeboard I had to 
the 1TB for what appears to be for a meaningless reason. Maybe it was the 
Dropbox activity that's caused this.

Regards


Pete

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