Hi Ronnie, problem is sorted now, did these items in your instructions all 
seems good. I am so relieved thanks for your spot on advice again, my son very 
thankful too.

Regards

Pete
> On 9 Apr 2017, at 7:30 am, Ronni Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Forgot to mention Peter in previous email - Make sure your son follows 
> closely and performs the post installation Tasks after running the Combo 
> Update., I would suspect he missed some of this in his first attempt to 
> upgrade from Yosemite to Sierra.
> 
> Perform Post-installation Tasks:
> A) Respond to Immediate Questions
> Among the most common questions are requests for your user account password 
> or Apple ID password. For example, certain apps may once again need an 
> administrator’s authorization to make changes to your data, and various apps 
> that use your Apple ID (including iTunes and iBooks) may need you to sign in 
> again.
> 
> Check System Preferences > iCloud to make sure you’re signed in to iCloud 
> (and with the correct Apple ID). Do the same in iTunes (Account > View My 
> Account) and the App Store (Store > View My Account).
> NOTE:  Make sure “iCloud Drive” in NOT activated! (unless you wish to use it; 
> you can set it up at a later date if needed)
> 
> B) The next thing you should do is to update macOS itself (and any other 
> crucial Apple software) to the latest version. Sometimes Apple releases bug 
> fixes and security updates almost immediately after a major upgrade, and if 
> any such urgent updates are available, it’s in your best interest to install 
> them right away.
> 
> C) Review the Incompatible Software Folder
> If the Sierra installer encounters any known incompatibilities, it moves the 
> problematic software to an Incompatible Software folder and explains what it 
> moved on one of the final screens of Setup Assistant. (After Setup Assistant 
> quits, you can find the Incompatible Software folder at the top level of your 
> startup disk, at the top level of your home folder, or even in both places, 
> depending on the location of the soft- ware that was disabled.)
> 
> D) Deal with Other Surprises
> Apple Mail:  The first time you launch Mail, a window informs you that it’s 
> “upgrading” your mail database. This step should take no more than a few 
> minutes, and is necessary because the Sierra version of Mail has updated the 
> database format it uses to store information about your messages.
> 
> Mail plug-ins: The first time you open Mail after upgrading, it moves most 
> incompatible third-party plug-ins (which are normally stored in 
> ~/Library/Mail/Bundles) into ~/Library/Mail/Bundles (Disabled) and displays 
> an alert telling you what it’s disabled. Don’t try to reenable these 
> manually; Mail will thwart your every effort to get them working. 
> Check with the developer to see if a Sierra- compatible update is available.
> 
> E) System Preferences Changes:
> As usual, Apple added, moved, and renamed a few items in System Preferences.
> I won’t do into the changes here, I’m just alerting you to check.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
>> On 9 Apr 2017, at 7:10 am, Ronni Brown <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Peter,
>> 
>> Download and install the Combo macOS Sierra 10.12.4 Combo Update on your 
>> son’s MacBook Pro.
>> 
>> Download macOS Sierra 10.12.4 Combo Update
>> 
>>  https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1910?locale=en_US 
>> <https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1910?locale=en_US>
>> 
>> Let me know if that corrects his problems.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>> 
>> macOS Sierra 10.12.4
>> 
>>> On 9 Apr 2017, at 6:43 am, Peter Crisp <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Friday evening my son pushed the OSX Update on his MacBook Pro (late 
>>> 2011) to move to Sierra 10.12.4 from Yosemite. The update went fine and I 
>>> forced a TM backup prior to starting. It seems to have all worked ok and 
>>> even the backup processed without hitch (unlike my own issue with FileVault 
>>> now resolved). His MacBook is still set with FileVault OFF. 
>>> 
>>> Short story is that he cannot access the Internet. Safari or Google Chrome 
>>> both will not respond - progress bar stops about 10% in and then stuck. 
>>> Network diagnostic assistance says "Your internet connection appears to be 
>>> working correctly". Backups to WiFi TM are working fine. Unable to login to 
>>> iCloud from his MacBook as no external Comms. I've checked his password 
>>> using myiPad in "Manage my AppleID" and this password is clearly not the 
>>> cause of error - just simply no Comms to outside the house.
>>> 
>>> All other computers and devices no problem communicating outside.
>>> 
>>> I had a browse and others have indicated Safari problems with the 10.12.4 
>>> update and that rolling back to 10.12.3 resolves the issue. Not an option 
>>> here as he has come 'from' Yosemite. 
>>> 
>>> All other apps requiring external Comms also do not respond; Mail, iTunes, 
>>> iCloud music etc. I even replicated the DNS settings from my MacBook all to 
>>> no avail. 
>>> 
>>> All clues anyone? Anything is possible after the Dockers rolled the 
>>> reigning premiers!!
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Pete
>> 
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