Dennis Schridde schreef: > Am Donnerstag, 4. Januar 2007 01:23 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > >> On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 19:07:05 -0500 Dennis Schridde >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Am Donnerstag, 4. Januar 2007 00:42 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: >>> >>>> devurandom wrote in the forums: >>>> "It seems as another discussion rises again: Shall I compile with MSVC and >>>> force our users to install the MSVC redist or shall I compile with GCC and >>>> be not able to use Microsoft Windows Debug Reports... *umpf*" >>>> >>>> I don't know why you wouldn't want to use the latest stuff from MS. >>>> >>>> They are the ones that require it for the compiler output, so that isn't >>>> your fault. >>>> >>> Who requires it? For compiler output? >>> >> I mean the .exe requires it if compiled with MSVCEE. >> >>>> It would be like using a older version of physfs/openAL/SDL, >>>> instead of the most updated (and bugfixed) codebase/libs/dlls. >>>> If someone don't want to update, then that is their problem, not >>>> yours, or the other WZ developers. >>>> With all the other project/developers using the newest compilers >>>> from MS, this should be a moot point. >>>> >>> I think I can say that most (not all) devs are using GCC and most >>> of them do >>> that on a Linux system. So getting minidumps which are compatible >>> with MSVC >>> wont help them much if MSVC is needed to view them. >>> >>> But as WINE can replay minidumps, I don't see a need anymore to >>> use MSVC. >>> >>>> "The Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable Package (x86) installs >>>> runtime components of Visual C++ Libraries required to run applications >>>> developed with Visual C++ on a computer that does not have Visual C++ 2005 >>>> installed." >>>> 2.6MB won't kill anyone. >>>> >>>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=32BC1BEE-A3F9-4C13-9C99-220B62A191EE&displaylang=en >>>> >>> I know that that package exists... >>> But most people don't have it installed, so best would to ship it with the >>> installer. But that is not what a modem user likes... >>> >> Modem user? They be mad change from pcx to png though. >> They happy from wave to ogg. Can't please them. :S >> >>> And given that WINE also can read the minidump files, I think we don't need >>> it. >>> (And actually I dislike the idea to switch over to Windows to compile >>> releases. ;) ) >>> >> Yes, sorry. This only applies if you do use MS compiler for release code. >> I just saw that comment from you on forums, and thought to reply. :) >> > No need to be sorry. ;) > > And I am glad that someone cares and tries to give input. > > But actually I only used MSVC, because I wasn't able to get GCC to > crosscompile at that time. Now that I got that working and I found out that > WINE can do some magic, too, I feel like I don't have to switch over to > Windows anymore. ;) > > If M$ would release MSVC for Linux, I would probably use it again, as it is a > IMO superior IDE... I do use windows (need it to run Borland C++ for school which happens to be slow when running it in wine), but that's all I use from MS. And that's all I want to use from M$, even if they'd release a product for GNU/Linux.
PS MSVC is indeed as an IDE superior to GCC, simply because GCC is no IDE, just a compiler collection (as the name implies) ;-) . -- Giel
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