Am Donnerstag, 4. Januar 2007 02:16 schrieb Giel van Schijndel: > Dennis Schridde schreef: > > Am Donnerstag, 4. Januar 2007 01:23 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > >> On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 19:07:05 -0500 Dennis Schridde > >> > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Am Donnerstag, 4. Januar 2007 00:42 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > >>>> devurandom wrote in the forums: > >>>> "It seems as another discussion rises again: Shall I compile with MSVC > >>>> and force our users to install the MSVC redist or shall I compile with > >>>> GCC and be not able to use Microsoft Windows Debug Reports... *umpf*" > >>>> > >>>> I don't know why you wouldn't want to use the latest stuff from MS. > >>>> > >>>> They are the ones that require it for the compiler output, so that > >>>> isn't your fault. > >>> > >>> Who requires it? For compiler output? > >> > >> I mean the .exe requires it if compiled with MSVCEE. > >> > >>>> It would be like using a older version of physfs/openAL/SDL, > >>>> instead of the most updated (and bugfixed) codebase/libs/dlls. > >>>> If someone don't want to update, then that is their problem, not > >>>> yours, or the other WZ developers. > >>>> With all the other project/developers using the newest compilers > >>>> from MS, this should be a moot point. > >>> > >>> I think I can say that most (not all) devs are using GCC and most > >>> of them do > >>> that on a Linux system. So getting minidumps which are compatible > >>> with MSVC > >>> wont help them much if MSVC is needed to view them. > >>> > >>> But as WINE can replay minidumps, I don't see a need anymore to > >>> use MSVC. > >>> > >>>> "The Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable Package (x86) installs > >>>> runtime components of Visual C++ Libraries required to run > >>>> applications developed with Visual C++ on a computer that does not > >>>> have Visual C++ 2005 installed." 2.6MB won't kill anyone. > >>>> > >>>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=32BC1BEE-A3F9 > >>>>-4C13-9C99-220B62A191EE&displaylang=en > >>> > >>> I know that that package exists... > >>> But most people don't have it installed, so best would to ship it with > >>> the installer. But that is not what a modem user likes... > >> > >> Modem user? They be mad change from pcx to png though. > >> They happy from wave to ogg. Can't please them. :S > >> > >>> And given that WINE also can read the minidump files, I think we don't > >>> need it. (And actually I dislike the idea to switch over to Windows to > >>> compile releases. ;) ) > >> > >> Yes, sorry. This only applies if you do use MS compiler for release > >> code. I just saw that comment from you on forums, and thought to reply. > >> :) > > > > No need to be sorry. ;) > > > > And I am glad that someone cares and tries to give input. > > > > But actually I only used MSVC, because I wasn't able to get GCC to > > crosscompile at that time. Now that I got that working and I found out > > that WINE can do some magic, too, I feel like I don't have to switch over > > to Windows anymore. ;) > > > > If M$ would release MSVC for Linux, I would probably use it again, as it > > is a IMO superior IDE... > > I do use windows (need it to run Borland C++ for school which happens to > be slow when running it in wine), but that's all I use from MS. And > that's all I want to use from M$, even if they'd release a product for > GNU/Linux. > > PS MSVC is indeed as an IDE superior to GCC, simply because GCC is no > IDE, just a compiler collection (as the name implies) ;-) . But actually I don't know an IDE, which utilizes GCC, which is superior to MSVC...
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