Yuri,

I agree that the current logo's if they are opens source, should at least be in 
the running.

~Michael

On Mar 21, 2011, at 1:05 PM, Yuri Z wrote:

> The Wave Protocol group and Fed One were open source form the beginning, and
> I personally think so is the Wave Protocol logo. Google Wave uses different
> logo and it seems to me it is logical to assume that this is the logo that
> Google retains the copyright on not the blue W logo that is used by Wave in
> a Box.
> I think we should try and clear this issue with Google instead of going
> ahead and changing it.
> 
> 2011/3/21 Jérémy Naegel <jeremy....@gmail.com>
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Since the Wave Federation Protocol is open-source from the beginning, I'm
>> amazed that the Wave Protocol logo doesn't have an open-source friendly
>> licence!
>> How did Google expected the Federated servers to promote their
>> technological affiliation without the ability to add a "powered by" Wave
>> Protocol logo?
>> 
>> Anyway, if a new Apache Wave logo has to be built from scratch, I'll be
>> doing my part by passing the word to some friends gifted with design
>> talents...
>> 
>> I've been thinking about this new logo for a few days and I think that, for
>> the same reasons that the "Wave" name was kept when moving to Apache
>> (probably to keep alive the renown of the "Wave" brand and to avoid the new
>> project to slip in limbo), it would be probably best to have a new logo that
>> reminds the Wave legacy and the Wave original logo.
>> 
>> I'm not very skilled with Photoshop but I've done two simple examples
>> attached here.  Even if on first look it may look quite similar to the Wave
>> protocol logo, there's nothing left of it except the color.
>> 
>> I think it's important to identify the specificities of the Wave and Wave
>> Protocol logos that can be covered by its copyright :
>> Of course there is the "3D depth" of it. Their is also the wave signal
>> shape : it has a smaller height in the middle and the left first part of the
>> shape has been put closer to the rest of the W letter.
>> 
>> Using a standard harmonic signal shape, without any of the specificities
>> listed above, shouldn't infringe the existing copyright.
>> From what I've tested, a close signal is drawn with the *y=4sin(x)*function.
>> 
>> So, what do you think of having an Apache Wave Logo recalling the original
>> W logo?
>> 
>> 
>> Jeremy Naegel
>> wave-france.blogspot.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 2011/3/18 Paul Thomas <dt01pqt...@yahoo.com>
>> 
>>> Yeh I was going to say that. However you can't trademark a wave shape. So
>>> there
>>> is nothing stopping using a wave in thier design so long as the direct
>>> association is not there.
>>> 
>>> I'd be up for a logo design comp. I could do it in inkscape as a plain
>>> svg.
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Soren Lassen <so...@google.com>
>>> To: wave-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> Cc: Nathanael Abbotts <nat.abbo...@gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Fri, 18 March, 2011 6:38:00
>>> Subject: Re: Licence on Wave Protocol Logo
>>> 
>>> The Apache Wave proposal
>>> 
>>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WaveProposal
>>> 
>>> states that:
>>> 
>>> "Google retains all rights to the trademarks "GOOGLE WAVE" and the
>>> wave design logo, neither of which will be used in the Apache Wave
>>> project."
>>> 
>>> We should design a new one, if we want a logo for Apache Wave.
>>> 
>>> Soren
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 3:23 AM, Nathanael Abbotts
>>> <nat.abbo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Can anyone tell me what licence has been applied to the wave protocol
>>> logo?
>>>> --
>>>> Nathanael Abbotts
>>>> 
>>>> Email: nat.abbo...@gmail.com
>>>> Wave: nat.abbo...@wavewatchers.org
>>>> Twitter: @natabbotts (http://twitter.com/natabbotts)
>>>> Web: http://natabbotts.com/
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 

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