I like it too! Nice work Paul! I'm just concerned it might still be too close to the Google Wave logo... I hope we'll have some Google-insider clarification on what we can / can't use.
Jeremy Naegel wave-france.blogspot.com 2011/3/30 Yuri Z <vega...@gmail.com> > It looks nice, I like it. I also like that it looks good on different > backgrounds. > Would you like to submit a patch? If you wish I can include the updated > logo > in my patch that updates the WIAB login page. > Yuri > > 2011/3/30 Paul Thomas <dt01pqt...@yahoo.com> > > > Ok here is a simplified and rationalised version of the existing logo. > > > > The main change is it is slightly less fussy. The is one vanishing point > > and it > > actually follows a sine function. > > > > > > > > It should look good on different background colours such as grey. > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Jérémy Naegel <jeremy....@gmail.com> > > To: wave-dev@incubator.apache.org > > Sent: Fri, 25 March, 2011 20:52:53 > > Subject: Re: Licence on Wave Protocol Logo > > > > By the way, what about something hand-drawn ? Like: http://goo.gl/zNbeSor > > http://goo.gl/PEOFp > > > > Jeremy Naegel > > wave-france.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > 2011/3/25 Paul Thomas <dt01pqt...@yahoo.com> > > > > > I actually started with the original logo as a guide. I give it another > > go. > > > The > > > main thing to note is the odd perspective used (which stood out from > the > > > first > > > google IO) and the psuedo sine wave especially in protocol one which is > > > more > > > like saw tooth with rounded corners. > > > > > > > > > The perspective sort works on the gwave/fedone log sort of works > becuase > > it > > > looks like it is bent round and tapered in at least two directions > (which > > > sort > > > of was inspiration). In the protocol doesn't really work as it is > > > orthographic/flat yet it naively tries to follow the same perspective. > > The > > > middle section is a bit picasso. > > > > > > I agree simple is best I will come up with something similar to the > > fedone > > > logo > > > with the same colors, just a rework of the form give it depth as you > say. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > From: Jérémy Naegel <jeremy....@gmail.com> > > > To: wave-dev@incubator.apache.org > > > Sent: Fri, 25 March, 2011 18:47:49 > > > Subject: Re: Licence on Wave Protocol Logo > > > > > > I agree, the simplicity of a W-shaped harmonic signal is IMHO the best > > > option to have an easily readable and understandable logo. > > > If indeed a new logo is necessary, I'm convinced that their is > unlimited > > > possibilities of turning a sine function into a simple and nice looking > > > logo > > > that will evoke Wave's legacy. > > > > > > See for example how those companies have managed to make something both > > > simple and original from a simple sine function shape : > > > http://www.waves.com/content.aspx?id=97 > > > http://www.mark-making.com/case-studies/wave_2.php > > > > > > or what can be achieve by putting several sine function next to another > > to > > > add some depth : > > > > > > > > > http://www.myspace.com/sevencycletheory/photos/358740#%7B%22ImageId%22%3A358740%7D > > >D > > > > > > > > > *I wish I could have some skills to turn ideas into logos!* > > > > > > > > > Jeremy Naegel > > > wave-france.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > 2011/3/25 Zachary “Gamer_Z.” Yaro <zmy...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > This is an interesting design. Not that I do not like your logo, but > I > > > > prefer the simplicity of the current logo. > > > > > > > > --Zachary “Gamer_Z.” Yaro > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 14:12, Paul Thomas <dt01pqt...@yahoo.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Slight correction > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > > > From: Paul Thomas <dt01pqt...@yahoo.com> > > > > > To: wave-dev@incubator.apache.org > > > > > Sent: Thu, 24 March, 2011 18:07:05 > > > > > Subject: Re: Licence on Wave Protocol Logo > > > > > > > > > > Just some ideas for a logo (open it in inkscape becuase of the > > > > > filter/effects > > > > > it won't render correctly otherwise). Tried to incorporate the > > feather > > > > > didn't > > > > > really work, however most Apache projects have unique logos anyway. > > > > > Probably > > > > > simple is best. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > > > From: Paul Thomas <dt01pqt...@yahoo.com> > > > > > To: wave-dev@incubator.apache.org > > > > > Sent: Tue, 22 March, 2011 15:24:28 > > > > > Subject: Re: Licence on Wave Protocol Logo > > > > > > > > > > The protocol logo is different from google wave logo even in the > > > > > perspective/form of the wave. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The protocol logo is safe, however that is for the protocol not > > apache > > > > wave > > > > > (there is a difference despite them being lumped together atm). > Hence > > > the > > > > > dimension like lines implying it is a standard rather than a > > > > > implementation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The old fed on logo is basically a monochrome of gwave. it is not > > safe > > > > and > > > > > also > > > > > unoriginal. > > > > > > > > > > I would say take the protocol logo lines and make something from > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > > > From: Jérémy Naegel <jeremy....@gmail.com> > > > > > To: wave-dev@incubator.apache.org > > > > > Sent: Tue, 22 March, 2011 10:30:03 > > > > > Subject: Re: Licence on Wave Protocol Logo > > > > > > > > > > Yuri, I truly hope you're right! > > > > > If that's the case I too think the Protocol logo should be kept for > > > > Apache > > > > > Wave. > > > > > > > > > > Soren, as you are a Googler, can you clarify this point? > > > > > > > > > > We all understand Google's copyright on the Google Wave's logo : > > > > > http://code.google.com/apis/wave/images/wavelogo.png > > > > > > > > > > But what about the blue protocol logo (the one with arrow and > > circles) > > > > > featured here : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2010/11/adding-robots-to-wave-in-box.html > > > > > And what about the "shades of blue" simpler one displayed here : > > > > > http://code.google.com/p/wave-protocol/ > > > > > > > > > > Could this last one be covered by the Apache License 2.0 stated in > > the > > > > > Project informations? > > > > > Note that this logo is already in use on WiaB demo servers ( > > > > > http://demo.wave-in-a-box.org/static/logo.png and > > > > > http://waveinabox.net:9898/static/logo.png ) > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeremy Naegel > > > > > wave-france.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > > PS: it may be irrelevant now but here are the two examples (looking > > as > > > > > close > > > > > as possible to the Wave federation logo but based on a pure > harmonic > > > wave > > > > > signal) I talked about earlier : > > > > > http://i.imgur.com/KXVKa.png and http://i.imgur.com/mLnaN.png > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2011/3/21 Michael MacFadden <michael.macfad...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > Yuri, > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree that the current logo's if they are opens source, should > at > > > > least > > > > > > be in the running. > > > > > > > > > > > > ~Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 21, 2011, at 1:05 PM, Yuri Z wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Wave Protocol group and Fed One were open source form the > > > > > beginning, > > > > > > and > > > > > > > I personally think so is the Wave Protocol logo. Google Wave > uses > > > > > > different > > > > > > > logo and it seems to me it is logical to assume that this is > the > > > logo > > > > > > that > > > > > > > Google retains the copyright on not the blue W logo that is > used > > by > > > > > Wave > > > > > > in > > > > > > > a Box. > > > > > > > I think we should try and clear this issue with Google instead > of > > > > going > > > > > > > ahead and changing it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2011/3/21 Jérémy Naegel <jeremy....@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Hi, > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Since the Wave Federation Protocol is open-source from the > > > > beginning, > > > > > > I'm > > > > > > >> amazed that the Wave Protocol logo doesn't have an open-source > > > > > friendly > > > > > > >> licence! > > > > > > >> How did Google expected the Federated servers to promote their > > > > > > >> technological affiliation without the ability to add a > "powered > > > by" > > > > > Wave > > > > > > >> Protocol logo? > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Anyway, if a new Apache Wave logo has to be built from > scratch, > > > I'll > > > > > be > > > > > > >> doing my part by passing the word to some friends gifted with > > > design > > > > > > >> talents... > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> I've been thinking about this new logo for a few days and I > > think > > > > > that, > > > > > > for > > > > > > >> the same reasons that the "Wave" name was kept when moving to > > > Apache > > > > > > >> (probably to keep alive the renown of the "Wave" brand and to > > > avoid > > > > > the > > > > > > new > > > > > > >> project to slip in limbo), it would be probably best to have a > > new > > > > > logo > > > > > > that > > > > > > >> reminds the Wave legacy and the Wave original logo. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> I'm not very skilled with Photoshop but I've done two simple > > > > examples > > > > > > >> attached here. Even if on first look it may look quite > similar > > to > > > > the > > > > > > Wave > > > > > > >> protocol logo, there's nothing left of it except the color. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> I think it's important to identify the specificities of the > Wave > > > and > > > > > > Wave > > > > > > >> Protocol logos that can be covered by its copyright : > > > > > > >> Of course there is the "3D depth" of it. Their is also the > wave > > > > signal > > > > > > >> shape : it has a smaller height in the middle and the left > first > > > > part > > > > > of > > > > > > the > > > > > > >> shape has been put closer to the rest of the W letter. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Using a standard harmonic signal shape, without any of the > > > > > specificities > > > > > > >> listed above, shouldn't infringe the existing copyright. > > > > > > >> From what I've tested, a close signal is drawn with the > > > > > > *y=4sin(x)*function. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> So, what do you think of having an Apache Wave Logo recalling > > the > > > > > > original > > > > > > >> W logo? > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Jeremy Naegel > > > > > > >> wave-france.blogspot.com > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> 2011/3/18 Paul Thomas <dt01pqt...@yahoo.com> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> Yeh I was going to say that. However you can't trademark a > wave > > > > > shape. > > > > > > So > > > > > > >>> there > > > > > > >>> is nothing stopping using a wave in thier design so long as > the > > > > > direct > > > > > > >>> association is not there. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> I'd be up for a logo design comp. I could do it in inkscape > as > > a > > > > > plain > > > > > > >>> svg. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> ----- Original Message ---- > > > > > > >>> From: Soren Lassen <so...@google.com> > > > > > > >>> To: wave-dev@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > >>> Cc: Nathanael Abbotts <nat.abbo...@gmail.com> > > > > > > >>> Sent: Fri, 18 March, 2011 6:38:00 > > > > > > >>> Subject: Re: Licence on Wave Protocol Logo > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> The Apache Wave proposal > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WaveProposal > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> states that: > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> "Google retains all rights to the trademarks "GOOGLE WAVE" > and > > > the > > > > > > >>> wave design logo, neither of which will be used in the Apache > > > Wave > > > > > > >>> project." > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> We should design a new one, if we want a logo for Apache > Wave. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Soren > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 3:23 AM, Nathanael Abbotts > > > > > > >>> <nat.abbo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > >>>> Can anyone tell me what licence has been applied to the wave > > > > > protocol > > > > > > >>> logo? > > > > > > >>>> -- > > > > > > >>>> Nathanael Abbotts > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> Email: nat.abbo...@gmail.com > > > > > > >>>> Wave: nat.abbo...@wavewatchers.org > > > > > > >>>> Twitter: @natabbotts (http://twitter.com/natabbotts) > > > > > > >>>> Web: http://natabbotts.com/ > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
