I actually started with the original logo as a guide. I give it another go. The main thing to note is the odd perspective used (which stood out from the first google IO) and the psuedo sine wave especially in protocol one which is more like saw tooth with rounded corners.
The perspective sort works on the gwave/fedone log sort of works becuase it looks like it is bent round and tapered in at least two directions (which sort of was inspiration). In the protocol doesn't really work as it is orthographic/flat yet it naively tries to follow the same perspective. The middle section is a bit picasso. I agree simple is best I will come up with something similar to the fedone logo with the same colors, just a rework of the form give it depth as you say. ----- Original Message ---- From: Jérémy Naegel <jeremy....@gmail.com> To: wave-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Fri, 25 March, 2011 18:47:49 Subject: Re: Licence on Wave Protocol Logo I agree, the simplicity of a W-shaped harmonic signal is IMHO the best option to have an easily readable and understandable logo. If indeed a new logo is necessary, I'm convinced that their is unlimited possibilities of turning a sine function into a simple and nice looking logo that will evoke Wave's legacy. See for example how those companies have managed to make something both simple and original from a simple sine function shape : http://www.waves.com/content.aspx?id=97 http://www.mark-making.com/case-studies/wave_2.php or what can be achieve by putting several sine function next to another to add some depth : http://www.myspace.com/sevencycletheory/photos/358740#%7B%22ImageId%22%3A358740%7D *I wish I could have some skills to turn ideas into logos!* Jeremy Naegel wave-france.blogspot.com 2011/3/25 Zachary “Gamer_Z.” Yaro <zmy...@gmail.com> > This is an interesting design. Not that I do not like your logo, but I > prefer the simplicity of the current logo. > > --Zachary “Gamer_Z.” Yaro > > > On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 14:12, Paul Thomas <dt01pqt...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Slight correction > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Paul Thomas <dt01pqt...@yahoo.com> > > To: wave-dev@incubator.apache.org > > Sent: Thu, 24 March, 2011 18:07:05 > > Subject: Re: Licence on Wave Protocol Logo > > > > Just some ideas for a logo (open it in inkscape becuase of the > > filter/effects > > it won't render correctly otherwise). Tried to incorporate the feather > > didn't > > really work, however most Apache projects have unique logos anyway. > > Probably > > simple is best. > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Paul Thomas <dt01pqt...@yahoo.com> > > To: wave-dev@incubator.apache.org > > Sent: Tue, 22 March, 2011 15:24:28 > > Subject: Re: Licence on Wave Protocol Logo > > > > The protocol logo is different from google wave logo even in the > > perspective/form of the wave. > > > > > > The protocol logo is safe, however that is for the protocol not apache > wave > > (there is a difference despite them being lumped together atm). Hence the > > dimension like lines implying it is a standard rather than a > > implementation. > > > > > > The old fed on logo is basically a monochrome of gwave. it is not safe > and > > also > > unoriginal. > > > > I would say take the protocol logo lines and make something from that. > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Jérémy Naegel <jeremy....@gmail.com> > > To: wave-dev@incubator.apache.org > > Sent: Tue, 22 March, 2011 10:30:03 > > Subject: Re: Licence on Wave Protocol Logo > > > > Yuri, I truly hope you're right! > > If that's the case I too think the Protocol logo should be kept for > Apache > > Wave. > > > > Soren, as you are a Googler, can you clarify this point? > > > > We all understand Google's copyright on the Google Wave's logo : > > http://code.google.com/apis/wave/images/wavelogo.png > > > > But what about the blue protocol logo (the one with arrow and circles) > > featured here : > > > > > http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2010/11/adding-robots-to-wave-in-box.html > > And what about the "shades of blue" simpler one displayed here : > > http://code.google.com/p/wave-protocol/ > > > > Could this last one be covered by the Apache License 2.0 stated in the > > Project informations? > > Note that this logo is already in use on WiaB demo servers ( > > http://demo.wave-in-a-box.org/static/logo.png and > > http://waveinabox.net:9898/static/logo.png ) > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > Jeremy Naegel > > wave-france.blogspot.com > > > > PS: it may be irrelevant now but here are the two examples (looking as > > close > > as possible to the Wave federation logo but based on a pure harmonic wave > > signal) I talked about earlier : > > http://i.imgur.com/KXVKa.png and http://i.imgur.com/mLnaN.png > > > > > > > > 2011/3/21 Michael MacFadden <michael.macfad...@gmail.com> > > > > > Yuri, > > > > > > I agree that the current logo's if they are opens source, should at > least > > > be in the running. > > > > > > ~Michael > > > > > > On Mar 21, 2011, at 1:05 PM, Yuri Z wrote: > > > > > > > The Wave Protocol group and Fed One were open source form the > > beginning, > > > and > > > > I personally think so is the Wave Protocol logo. Google Wave uses > > > different > > > > logo and it seems to me it is logical to assume that this is the logo > > > that > > > > Google retains the copyright on not the blue W logo that is used by > > Wave > > > in > > > > a Box. > > > > I think we should try and clear this issue with Google instead of > going > > > > ahead and changing it. > > > > > > > > 2011/3/21 Jérémy Naegel <jeremy....@gmail.com> > > > > > > > >> Hi, > > > >> > > > >> Since the Wave Federation Protocol is open-source from the > beginning, > > > I'm > > > >> amazed that the Wave Protocol logo doesn't have an open-source > > friendly > > > >> licence! > > > >> How did Google expected the Federated servers to promote their > > > >> technological affiliation without the ability to add a "powered by" > > Wave > > > >> Protocol logo? > > > >> > > > >> Anyway, if a new Apache Wave logo has to be built from scratch, I'll > > be > > > >> doing my part by passing the word to some friends gifted with design > > > >> talents... > > > >> > > > >> I've been thinking about this new logo for a few days and I think > > that, > > > for > > > >> the same reasons that the "Wave" name was kept when moving to Apache > > > >> (probably to keep alive the renown of the "Wave" brand and to avoid > > the > > > new > > > >> project to slip in limbo), it would be probably best to have a new > > logo > > > that > > > >> reminds the Wave legacy and the Wave original logo. > > > >> > > > >> I'm not very skilled with Photoshop but I've done two simple > examples > > > >> attached here. Even if on first look it may look quite similar to > the > > > Wave > > > >> protocol logo, there's nothing left of it except the color. > > > >> > > > >> I think it's important to identify the specificities of the Wave and > > > Wave > > > >> Protocol logos that can be covered by its copyright : > > > >> Of course there is the "3D depth" of it. Their is also the wave > signal > > > >> shape : it has a smaller height in the middle and the left first > part > > of > > > the > > > >> shape has been put closer to the rest of the W letter. > > > >> > > > >> Using a standard harmonic signal shape, without any of the > > specificities > > > >> listed above, shouldn't infringe the existing copyright. > > > >> From what I've tested, a close signal is drawn with the > > > *y=4sin(x)*function. > > > >> > > > >> So, what do you think of having an Apache Wave Logo recalling the > > > original > > > >> W logo? > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Jeremy Naegel > > > >> wave-france.blogspot.com > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> 2011/3/18 Paul Thomas <dt01pqt...@yahoo.com> > > > >> > > > >>> Yeh I was going to say that. However you can't trademark a wave > > shape. > > > So > > > >>> there > > > >>> is nothing stopping using a wave in thier design so long as the > > direct > > > >>> association is not there. > > > >>> > > > >>> I'd be up for a logo design comp. I could do it in inkscape as a > > plain > > > >>> svg. > > > >>> > > > >>> ----- Original Message ---- > > > >>> From: Soren Lassen <so...@google.com> > > > >>> To: wave-dev@incubator.apache.org > > > >>> Cc: Nathanael Abbotts <nat.abbo...@gmail.com> > > > >>> Sent: Fri, 18 March, 2011 6:38:00 > > > >>> Subject: Re: Licence on Wave Protocol Logo > > > >>> > > > >>> The Apache Wave proposal > > > >>> > > > >>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WaveProposal > > > >>> > > > >>> states that: > > > >>> > > > >>> "Google retains all rights to the trademarks "GOOGLE WAVE" and the > > > >>> wave design logo, neither of which will be used in the Apache Wave > > > >>> project." > > > >>> > > > >>> We should design a new one, if we want a logo for Apache Wave. > > > >>> > > > >>> Soren > > > >>> > > > >>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 3:23 AM, Nathanael Abbotts > > > >>> <nat.abbo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >>>> Can anyone tell me what licence has been applied to the wave > > protocol > > > >>> logo? > > > >>>> -- > > > >>>> Nathanael Abbotts > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Email: nat.abbo...@gmail.com > > > >>>> Wave: nat.abbo...@wavewatchers.org > > > >>>> Twitter: @natabbotts (http://twitter.com/natabbotts) > > > >>>> Web: http://natabbotts.com/ > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
