Yuri, I truly hope you're right!
If that's the case I too think the Protocol logo should be kept for Apache
Wave.

Soren, as you are a Googler, can you clarify this point?

We all understand Google's copyright on the Google Wave's logo :
http://code.google.com/apis/wave/images/wavelogo.png

But what about the blue protocol logo (the one with arrow and circles)
featured here :
http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2010/11/adding-robots-to-wave-in-box.html
And what about the "shades of blue" simpler one displayed here :
http://code.google.com/p/wave-protocol/

Could this last one be covered by the Apache License 2.0 stated in the
Project informations?
Note that this logo is already in use on WiaB demo servers (
http://demo.wave-in-a-box.org/static/logo.png and
http://waveinabox.net:9898/static/logo.png )

Thanks in advance.


Jeremy Naegel
wave-france.blogspot.com

PS: it may be irrelevant now but here are the two examples (looking as close
as possible to the Wave federation logo but based on a pure harmonic wave
signal) I talked about earlier :
http://i.imgur.com/KXVKa.png and http://i.imgur.com/mLnaN.png



2011/3/21 Michael MacFadden <michael.macfad...@gmail.com>

> Yuri,
>
> I agree that the current logo's if they are opens source, should at least
> be in the running.
>
> ~Michael
>
> On Mar 21, 2011, at 1:05 PM, Yuri Z wrote:
>
> > The Wave Protocol group and Fed One were open source form the beginning,
> and
> > I personally think so is the Wave Protocol logo. Google Wave uses
> different
> > logo and it seems to me it is logical to assume that this is the logo
> that
> > Google retains the copyright on not the blue W logo that is used by Wave
> in
> > a Box.
> > I think we should try and clear this issue with Google instead of going
> > ahead and changing it.
> >
> > 2011/3/21 Jérémy Naegel <jeremy....@gmail.com>
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Since the Wave Federation Protocol is open-source from the beginning,
> I'm
> >> amazed that the Wave Protocol logo doesn't have an open-source friendly
> >> licence!
> >> How did Google expected the Federated servers to promote their
> >> technological affiliation without the ability to add a "powered by" Wave
> >> Protocol logo?
> >>
> >> Anyway, if a new Apache Wave logo has to be built from scratch, I'll be
> >> doing my part by passing the word to some friends gifted with design
> >> talents...
> >>
> >> I've been thinking about this new logo for a few days and I think that,
> for
> >> the same reasons that the "Wave" name was kept when moving to Apache
> >> (probably to keep alive the renown of the "Wave" brand and to avoid the
> new
> >> project to slip in limbo), it would be probably best to have a new logo
> that
> >> reminds the Wave legacy and the Wave original logo.
> >>
> >> I'm not very skilled with Photoshop but I've done two simple examples
> >> attached here.  Even if on first look it may look quite similar to the
> Wave
> >> protocol logo, there's nothing left of it except the color.
> >>
> >> I think it's important to identify the specificities of the Wave and
> Wave
> >> Protocol logos that can be covered by its copyright :
> >> Of course there is the "3D depth" of it. Their is also the wave signal
> >> shape : it has a smaller height in the middle and the left first part of
> the
> >> shape has been put closer to the rest of the W letter.
> >>
> >> Using a standard harmonic signal shape, without any of the specificities
> >> listed above, shouldn't infringe the existing copyright.
> >> From what I've tested, a close signal is drawn with the
> *y=4sin(x)*function.
> >>
> >> So, what do you think of having an Apache Wave Logo recalling the
> original
> >> W logo?
> >>
> >>
> >> Jeremy Naegel
> >> wave-france.blogspot.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2011/3/18 Paul Thomas <dt01pqt...@yahoo.com>
> >>
> >>> Yeh I was going to say that. However you can't trademark a wave shape.
> So
> >>> there
> >>> is nothing stopping using a wave in thier design so long as the direct
> >>> association is not there.
> >>>
> >>> I'd be up for a logo design comp. I could do it in inkscape as a plain
> >>> svg.
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----
> >>> From: Soren Lassen <so...@google.com>
> >>> To: wave-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >>> Cc: Nathanael Abbotts <nat.abbo...@gmail.com>
> >>> Sent: Fri, 18 March, 2011 6:38:00
> >>> Subject: Re: Licence on Wave Protocol Logo
> >>>
> >>> The Apache Wave proposal
> >>>
> >>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WaveProposal
> >>>
> >>> states that:
> >>>
> >>> "Google retains all rights to the trademarks "GOOGLE WAVE" and the
> >>> wave design logo, neither of which will be used in the Apache Wave
> >>> project."
> >>>
> >>> We should design a new one, if we want a logo for Apache Wave.
> >>>
> >>> Soren
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 3:23 AM, Nathanael Abbotts
> >>> <nat.abbo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Can anyone tell me what licence has been applied to the wave protocol
> >>> logo?
> >>>> --
> >>>> Nathanael Abbotts
> >>>>
> >>>> Email: nat.abbo...@gmail.com
> >>>> Wave: nat.abbo...@wavewatchers.org
> >>>> Twitter: @natabbotts (http://twitter.com/natabbotts)
> >>>> Web: http://natabbotts.com/
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>

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